madhattr88 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 i've had success with Behlen's blood red dye and tru-oil (see 1st pic), but i'd like to use a lighter color dye on my next. Any ideas how to keep the lighter stains from turning brown from my mahogany body. I want a transparent look.....love to see the wood grain. No opaque! I'm kinda shooting for this (2nd pic) Yes, i know its TV yellow, but any lighter dye will do. Also, not sure if Behlehns makes a yellow dye. What if I just think some yellow paint? Any suggestions? Filler first maybe? Then dye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 i've had success with Behlen's blood red dye and tru-oil (see 1st pic), but i'd like to use a lighter color dye on my next. Any ideas how to keep the lighter stains from turning brown from my mahogany body. I want a transparent look.....love to see the wood grain. No opaque! I'm kinda shooting for this (2nd pic) Yes, i know its TV yellow, but any lighter dye will do. Also, not sure if Behlehns makes a yellow dye. What if I just think some yellow paint? Any suggestions? Filler first maybe? Then dye? Paint? you just said you want trans, not opaque? the second pic is just the natural color of the wood... you would need a white colored wood or that wood (white limba) to get the same look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhattr88 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Sorry, my original post was suppose to say "thin" some yellow paint. Didnt the old LP juniors have mahogany bodies with transparent white/yellow stain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) some were plain mahogany, unstained, but that one is limba... You cant stain mahogany, or any wood for that matter a lighter color... unless you bleach it. Edited June 25, 2010 by killemall8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Didnt the old LP juniors have mahogany bodies with transparent white/yellow stain? is been suggested that the 'tv yellow' on old juniors was sprayed as a solid finish - but the grainfiller underneath had some pigment which bled through making the grain visable, or the paint just thinned out gradually till it was visable anyway some info here on how he originals may have been done - and how to recreate it http://reranch.com/tv_yellow.htm on my sunburst junior the top was bleached (rustins woodbleach) and sprayed the right colour with grain showing through it may give you ideas of something to try with tru-oil but i dont thnk you will get a lighter finish than the wood using an oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenspoke Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Yellow comes in a dye. Transtint or a powdered (aniline) dye can both be thinned into a clear finish rather than wiping on the dye, this is called tinting the finish not staining. After apply enough tinted finish to get the desired color stop and switch to clear for your final coats. Of course it will work fine on some lighter woods and not so great on darker woods. You can apply yellow directly as well(stain) then clear coat. Getting a yellow paint opaque may be near impossible as a white base has been added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliski Guitars Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Tv yellow isn't actually a dye... Generally its achieved by using a dark grainfiller then sprayed with thinned down opaque paint to get a translucent level of coverage. The more coats you spray, the less visable grain you get. For example- here is one I built with a very lightly coloured Korina body which had a dark brown grainfill and then opaque pigments added into clear laquer (took maybe 4 or 5 coats to get here) Its not TV yellow but the same approach can be used to achive the trans kind of finishes I think you're after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdstone Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Hi I am about to attempt this kind of finish so I am wondering what colour you thinned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzhou Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Sorry, my original post was suppose to say "thin" some yellow paint. Didnt the old LP juniors have mahogany bodies with transparent white/yellow stain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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