Our Souls inc. Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 There was recently a post about some type of neck heel that held the neck on by string tension . The diagram certainly showed the neck being held in by a bolt, but thats besides the point. It made me chuckle because I've been working on a neck joint that has no bolts, glue or screws so its interchangeable and easily buildable. I have no less than two working solutions to the problem, pics coming very soon, but I'm just curious... Anyone else messed about with this or heard of neck joints that require no mechanical means of attachment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helldunkel Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Swiss luthier Lukas Brunner, invented a new attachement system for his "outdoor line" but you still must tighten it... The luthier website with pics of the outdoor guitars: Brunner Guitars HA! lucky bastard, I just noticed that Don Alder, my favourite acoustic player is one of his customer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomxc5Cb7hA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted February 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Thats cool. I like the little case! I'm thinking more along the lines of easily do-able though. I have one thats mostly built, and its sort of a set neck, but without permanent attachment. I am going to try a bass too, just to see if it will work out. If so, I may have a new neck joint. ( or two ) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 So, to bring this back to life, my current build is utilizing a no screws, no glues attachment method. The upper arm/ no tension necks are from the same brain-storming session, but in a totally different direction. This application will utilize the string tension to hold the neck in place. On my 'trussless bass neck' thread, I showed one way of attaching a neck with no screws or glue,using a dovetail channel thru the pocket. This way is SOOO much more clever than that one, although they both work. I have a 3rd method as well, but I stuffed up the proto and have to try that one again. To try and describe it, the neck comes up thru the body between the pups and the tension holds it there. Yes, its really that simple. It's a great combination of set-neck upper fret access with bolt-on changeability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I showed one way of attaching a neck with no screws or glue,using a dovetail channel thru the pocket. Thi no glue??? ya sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 100% positive. That "fit" that I showed is now out of the body while I smooth it down. I admitted in those pics that it looked rough, and it did/does, but its removeable. ...now that piece of purpleheart IS glued to the neck heel- my apologies on that one- that neck wasnt carved out of a thick enough blank. Carved from a 2" thick neck blank, the dovetail is part of the neck- no glue required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 nah, i know - i was just teasing! but for me the main problem with a glue less neck will be tolerance. any slop in the join will leave potential for movement and it not quite sitting right. but if it is all nice and tight any wood movement can change that. its either going to end up tighter or looser at some point i would also worry about loss of transmission between body & neck if the fit is not spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Here you go. No glue, No bolts, No tennon, No nothin. Just all one single piece of timber. Why complicate things No disturbance of vibration/transmission between the neck & body either. I know it probobly not the point here. But screw it (or dont, more to the point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Aaron Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I believe Greg Smallman uses a string-tension neck joint on his fancy-pants classicals these days, if I recall correctly. Take the strings off and off pops the neck. David Schramm uses a variation on it for his own Aussie style guitar. http://www.schrammguitars.com/lattice.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted April 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 O.K., I'm happy to announce that the concept works perfectly. I strung the guitar up this afternoon and Viola! no glue, no screws, strung up and playin. I will work on the 3rd version and post pics of them all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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