Our Souls inc. Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I'm currently wrapping up a sand-down and I'm debating the type of finish to apply. It's a Padouk body and I was going to finish it in water based poly, clear, no dye, and was hoping to get a high gloss smooth finish. what would be a good pore-filler and what order would YOU do the finishing in? My plan is: Finish the sanding ( I'm at 150 now, headed up to 320 ) apply sanding sealer pore-fill sand again- (220 - 600) apply clear coats what am I missing/planning on doing wrong, in your opinion/expertise? Finishing is one area I definitely suck at, so I'm trying to expand my horizons a bit. Right now, I'm strictly an oil-finish or rattle-can guy........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Personally, I would use zPoxy or System 3 epoxy for the pore fill. That's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Thank you sir. I'm considering CA too........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 The only thing I can think of with CA and Padouk, is that sometimes it has some rather large pores, so it just takes longer with CA. I love CA for tight grains since sometimes it's hard to get the epoxy to push down in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 excellent point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Although I typically prefer CA over epoxy most of the time, this situation clearly calls for epoxy pore fill, not CA. AND, you can tint/dye the epoxy with black and have some cool black-filled pores against the pretty Paduak too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 ...and it all comes back. I just remembered that padouk top you did that to. That is a cool look. I will definitely consider that ,sir. What'd you use to get the epoxy black, tint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripthorn Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 To get epoxy black, I have used artist's charcoal that I made a powder of using a file and it works well. You can also buy straight up black epoxy. Of course, Drak probably used an actual tint from his vast collection of finishing supplies which I drool over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Tint's All Lamp Black, you can get a tube at Home Depot for probably less than $2.00. Use it -very- sparingly with epoxy, the A/B epoxy doesn't like a lot of additional components. Too much will slow the drying time, and if you really overdo it, it won't harden at all and be sort of rubbery. You only need a -VERY- small dab ...to get 'er done. It's the color of your skin, your skin is Black Metallic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Drak- thank you. I ended up going to the in-progress section and reviewing the Afterburner thread. I saw the warnings about the mixture there too. i ended up using the same black dye I've been using on my guitar bodies as of late. its powdered, but did a wonderful job. The test batch hardened real nice, so I mixed up another round and grabbed an old credit card. I wiped it into the pores as much as I could, wiping and smearing/slicing the 'poxy in as much as possible. there's some thicker spots, mostly along the edges but not a whole lot to take off tomorrow. Much appreciation for the guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 ...pant pant... more to take off than I thought..... I used a scraper to get it down to the wood, then started with the sanding . It did leave the pores full , and a nice contrast to the Padouk color, too. It also showcased every single solitary nook and scratch that the body still had. Which was good in a way, the epoxy was like a 'whoopers' highlighter. I was able to take them out as I was going, but i was surprised at how many little snaggles I had left behind.... Its looking up now though. Pores are full and smoothed off. Time to seal it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpcrash Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 BTW - if you ever run out of "old" credit cards (like I did) - you can order blank plastic cards from any badge printing company online. I got like 500 for about $30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 BTW - if you ever run out of "old" credit cards (like I did) - you can order blank plastic cards from any badge printing company online. I got like 500 for about $30. killer tip, thanks. I can use my pick-punch to make picks out of them too........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Our Souls inc. Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 not on topic at all, but this guiar represents a few firsts for me, the biggest of which is the tensionless neck. There is absolutely NO ( 0 ) none nada zilch zero zip string pull on the neck. I can tune it to pitch and remove the neck. ( although it wont be in tune anymore, it'll still be kinda like a harp...... ) No, you've never seen anything like it. Yes, I like stretching the boundaries a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Aaron Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) If you really want to expand your wood-finishing horizons, I'd highly recommend "Understanding Wood Finishing" by Bob Flexner and "Hand Applied Finishes" by Jeff Jewitt. I've read a lot of books on the subject and those two are my current favourites for a lot of reasons that I'm too lazy to type about right now. They're also popular enough that a lot of libraries have them in their collection, which is convenient. P.S. That neck sounds interesting. You should post photos and explain it for your guitar-makin' buddies. Edited March 18, 2011 by B. Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangedrop Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 not on topic at all, but this guiar represents a few firsts for me, the biggest of which is the tensionless neck. There is absolutely NO ( 0 ) none nada zilch zero zip string pull on the neck. I can tune it to pitch and remove the neck. ( although it wont be in tune anymore, it'll still be kinda like a harp...... ) No, you've never seen anything like it. Yes, I like stretching the boundaries a bit. This sounds like a very interesting build... Subscribed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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