Dean Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Scotta, man ,that is sweet.It looks thin ,is it? Carve on brother , we will have no straight lines in this world.On a scale or 1 to 10 I give it a 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 That's awesome Deano, thanks. The treble side where the belly carve and forearm carve would be on a strat is roughly 3/4" at the edge. The opposite edge is about 1.5"....maybe a little less, and the control cavity is at 2". It's about 2.25" under the bridge. It is pretty hard to put a number to; hardly anywhere is flat.....and absolutely nothing on the back is flat. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 That's awesome Deano, thanks. The treble side where the belly carve and forearm carve would be on a strat is roughly 3/4" at the edge. The opposite edge is about 1.5"....maybe a little less, and the control cavity is at 2". It's about 2.25" under the bridge. It is pretty hard to put a number to; hardly anywhere is flat.....and absolutely nothing on the back is flat. SR One of the pictures made it look thinner.You know I like the carving , it looks really streamline and smooth.I will be starting another thread soon, as I am on another build myself.Oh , that heal is killer ,I like the smooth transition .I be watching , so keep on keeping on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob123 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I apologize if its been said already, what are you planning to finish the guitar with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 It looks pretty thin in person too. Bob, the body is getting nitro and the neck will get Danish oil. I'm in the air a bit still on the headstock cap. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I wonder who that was referring to? This has got a nice soft organic look to it now. It almost reminds me of the curves the Ibanez Satriani model has. Actually, that is probably the work of Paulie's I was reminded of. He has posted several JS builds. SR Indeed I have. Love those guitars. I rekon the JS1000 influenced my Black Lotus model big time, the body on that thing is carved like a JS. Except the Lotus goes further & takes the body carve way past where Ibanez do. Scotty this thing is giving me carv envy I have a few builds waiting to get going again, but I fooked my stupid thumb up & have to wait till my grip is back before I can do anything. Sucks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Carvin' is fun. Dang Paulie, you've been run over, caught the plague, been asaulted by exotic wood dust and now have fooked up your thumb. do you need someone to walk around behind you to save you from.........what......life itself it sounds like. Did the chick know what she was getting into? Just kidding man, heal up and get back in the saddle. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 well, Actually, If someone could walk around & point out all the stupid things i do to cause these issues that would be great. Although in this case, the stupid thing was helping a mate out by dropping in some birdseye veneers I had cut him for an old morgan he is rebuilding for a customer of his. His thicknesser fired a big lump of ash at me. there was a bang, a grinding noise, the wood stopped moving thru the machine for a sec. then it shot out & smashed into my chest. I kinda caught it with my thumb & bent it right back. Lotsa concerned faces at first, then lotsa laughing, then lotsa discomfort, & now lotsa Spongebob & crabby pattys (double whoppers) while I chill for a few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 oh. & the chick is more clumsy than I am, we should really be in state custody or something. you know, for all of YOUR safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 oh. & the chick is more clumsy than I am, we should really be in state custody or something. you know, for all of YOUR safety. Ow! I hurt myself laughing at that, man! Baby Mac is into Sponge Bob already is he? God.....It is Baby Mac that is into Sponge Bob, isn't it? SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Damn, weekends go fast. I spent one of those that involved a ton of work that didn't yield a whole lot of visible difference. I fine tuned all the contours. I always manage to booger up the frets a bit, so I went over them again. Twas a good thing too. I found the third fret to be lower than the rest...I'm not at all sure how that happened. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Here you go Deanoh. This is why it looks so thin. SR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Photobucket always messes with me. I don't know why it rotated that last pic 90 degrees. Oh well. I wish I could say this is how it looks after finishing......but it has zero finish on it at this point. I think it looks good as is. But it wouldn't survive. I think it would be great if the padouk in the neck would stay this color as well.......but that ain't gonna happen either. So right now I've got a pore filling test going. I'll let you know how that goes next week. SR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtisa Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Looking pretty spectauclar, Scott. The stepped carve almost gives it a muscular look. Photobucket always meeses with me. I don't know why it rotated that las pic 90 degrees. Oh well. If your camera takes photos and imprints orientation info into the JPEG EXIF properties, photobucket will faithfully reproduce your photo in that orientation, even if you've rotated it to correct the 90 degree flip. Always caught me out when posting pics taken on my mobile. Only way I've been able to get around it is to use something like Irfanview to resave each image before uploading and delete the EXIF orientation flags. There may be easier ways to get around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdshirtman Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Looking very nice. The colors and wood grain on that reminds me of a boa constrictor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Looking pretty spectauclar, Scott. The stepped carve almost gives it a muscular look. Photobucket always meeses with me. I don't know why it rotated that las pic 90 degrees. Oh well. If your camera takes photos and imprints orientation info into the JPEG EXIF properties, photobucket will faithfully reproduce your photo in that orientation, even if you've rotated it to correct the 90 degree flip. Always caught me out when posting pics taken on my mobile. Only way I've been able to get around it is to use something like Irfanview to resave each image before uploading and delete the EXIF orientation flags. There may be easier ways to get around it. Thanks Curtis. The concave carves under the horns were intended to mirror the arcs in the headstock andsort of give a nod to violin type cutouts. They do sort of make it look like it is flexing its muscles. And I totally did not see the control recess pointing to some 6 pack abs. I'm guessing my camara does not imprint orientations. I have had the odd shot get rotated before so I've made a habit of shooting everything landscape/horizontally and just cropping if I want a vertical shot. That one shot was taken horizontally and cropped even more horizontally. I've rotated them in photobucket in the past.......sometimes it works sometimes it still shows up here rotated. I stopped trying to change them. If they show up here upside down, then we'll all just look it them upside down. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Looking very nice. The colors and wood grain on that reminds me of a boa constrictor. I didn't see that one coming, but now that you mention it...... I see a kind of woodlands camo thing going on. I think if you leaned against a tree in the forest it might get lost. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliemc Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 oh. & the chick is more clumsy than I am, we should really be in state custody or something. you know, for all of YOUR safety. Ow! I hurt myself laughing at that, man! Baby Mac is into Sponge Bob already is he? God.....It is Baby Mac that is into Sponge Bob, isn't it? SR SPONGEBOB ROCKS MAN !!!!! I watch it with the little dude during the day sometimes, when Im having lunch & chillin for a bit. the little yellow freak is a genius. Baby mac seems to realy like yellow so it suits him well. I had not realised you carved the upper bout to such a thin profile. I can see what you mean about chanelling my design mojo wait till you play this thing. being cut like that - the guitar just vanishes into your body. I have found that when you cut them realy thin, there seems to be a more natural woody tone to the guitar aswell. I noticed it with my acoustics & archtops aswell, thicker is not always better. Infact it can sometimes mean a muddy overly bass riden sound with underpowered high notes. no real balance in the tone. I winder if it was a consideration of RAD's when he was designing those S model, Razor blade thin guitars, he doesnt strike me as the type to just leav something like that to chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I wonder if it was a consideration of RAD's when he was designing those S model, Razor blade thin guitars, he doesn't strike me as the type to just leave something like that to chanceI don't leave things to chance.If "fate" is a cruel mistress "chance" is her mean ugly sister.That looks great Scott. I really think I would like the organic fit of this guitar.How is the weight so far? I can't tell from the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbinst Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I havnt had a chance to check in this thread in awhile but holy crap that thing is looking good man. Your carving is beautiful and I love the wood combo you got goin on. Nice work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I wonder if it was a consideration of RAD's when he was designing those S model, Razor blade thin guitars, he doesn't strike me as the type to just leave something like that to chance I don't leave things to chance. If "fate" is a cruel mistress "chance" is her mean ugly sister. That looks great Scott. I really think I would like the organic fit of this guitar. How is the weight so far? I can't tell from the pictures. This thing is super comfy to hold, like Paulie says it kind of just melts in against your body. As far as weight goes, I'd guess about 7 lbs, give or take. I haven't weighed it yet but it is currently lighter than the red F-hole guitar and that is just a hair over 7 lbs. I was worried about getting the weight down as the body timbers started out heavier than the red one did. I'm testing using blonde shellac and sanding dust for pore filling on off cuts. It is working nicely. It barely changes the color of the limba at all, but darkens the ziricote a lot. I expect to be able to sand back down to the wood surface and restore the color......but I don't know yet. Thus the tests. I havnt had a chance to check in this thread in awhile but holy crap that thing is looking good man. Your carving is beautiful and I love the wood combo you got goin on. Nice work! Thanks Tyler. You know a thing or two about nice work yourself. Paulie, you're going to have to make a quarter scale Sponge Bob git for Baby Mac before long. Should be easy to take a Bo Diddly, paint it yellow and add some eyes and goofy teeth....... SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Seal the Ziricote with a shot coat of lacquer trying to fill it. The lacquer will darken it a bit but it should prevent any further darkening. Honestly I would just shoot lacquer on the ziricote and sand back to fill the pores or seal it and use epoxy. You want it as clear as possible. Any thing that adds tint will darken it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Lacquer was always going to be my fall back option on the ziricote if this doesn't work the way I want it to. The down side of lacquer for pore filling is the same down side of lacquer as always: shrink back. The ziricote has relatively small pores, but they are really deep. And I've got several that have been opened up horizontally along the carve. They are basically small grooves about 4" long. They gotta be filled. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestorationAD Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Seal it. Use epoxy. Spray away. Let it cure. Hop a flight to Raleigh. Drop by my shop. Use the new buffing system. Have a few brews, some shots, some ribs and ghost pepper chili. Red Eye home before the buzz wears off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 That sounds like a fine time. Have you already got the new buffing system? SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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