Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 a 27" scale allows for standard tuning.......RIGHT????????? people have been mentioning to me that its tuned to a low B or something like on a 7 string. And I'm always saying no way! Tons of guitars have 27" scales...... like ......... uh JIM SOLOWAY. but um.... will everything work out ok? because i'm close to finishing up the fingerboard and putting it on. (yes my inlay is almost done. just need to route in fingerboard and glue AND MY BOTTOM FRETBOARD CUTOUT IS ALMOST DONE!) but i dont want it to got to waste! Are the tension and intonation going to be messed up? I mean I'll get super long strings so the tension won't be THAT messed up. but will it be tight tension? will the tuning not work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 You should be able to tune to standard using 9's or 8's but the tension would be fairly high if I'm thinking right. Vai has a 7 string baritone that's tuned down 1 step so I assume it's possible to go up a step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 well what if i used longer strings or something......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 27" scale is tuned to b it is called a baritone scale you would break strings like crazy trying to get them tuned to e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 ........crap........... this is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Tune it to BEADGB and just play the top 5 strings. Not perfect but it's better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 uh... no.... i think ill reduce the scale.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 whats wrong with baritone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 i dont want to TUNE DOWN thats hte point of a 7 string! IM PLAYING BLUES AND JAZZ! I dont KNOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 i play blues as low as a B...to me it just means that you can bend a lot further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 you haven't statrted on the neck ,have you? no big deal the body is the same as long as you haven't routed for the bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 i havent... but is there ANY solution. I SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THE FINGERBOARD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 not for e...not that i know of...you could try the lighter strings but i doubt it would work.i think the high e would break before you got it tight enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 If the fingerboard is wide enough then simply build a 7-string.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 On a 25.5" scale guitar, the distance from the nut to the 1st fret is 1.431". On a 27" scale guitar, it's 1.515". The difference between a 27" to 25.5" scaled guitar is (obviously) 1.5" so tuning a 27" guitar up to E is about the same as a 25.5" tuned up to F (just a half step.) I think it should be fine... just don't go bending like crazy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 the tension calculated is what you would need.i think it would be more like tuning to up to g the string tension difference between a 25.5" scale and a 24 3/4" scale is quite a bit...and this is twice that snork...email jonathon qhesqui(i am not sure of the name) he did the 27" 7string about 2 years ago...he could tell you what you want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...php?showuser=43 this guy...email him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 This is kinda fun . Let me find some formulas for string tension... but first lunch . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 lunch is for fat people...speaking of which...i need breakfast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidgec94 Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 What about all the 6 stringed baritones on the market at the moment, would they come factory tuned to B or C or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Hmm... fat people, eh? Interesting. Well, anyway. There's a string tension calculator here implemented in JavaScript. The first string (E) would probably be the one of concern here. Here are the numbers: 24.75" w/ 0.010" tuned to (E) = 15.422 lbs. 25.5" w/ 0.010" tuned to (E) = 16.368 lbs. 25.5" w/ 0.010" tuned to (F) = 18.370 lbs. 25.5" w/ 0.010" tuned to (G) = 23.144 lbs. 27.0" w/ 0.010" tuned to (E) = 18.348 lbs. as with anything you find on the internet, take the results with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 well that sounds manageable as long as he makes a good stiff neck. can't be good for the knife edge on the trem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 i would use 9s instead of 10s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 What if, I made it a 26.5 scale? Or like a 26 inch scale? and BTW a scale is the nut to where the fretboard meets the body correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feylya Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 A scale is the nut to the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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