westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 NOOO!!!27" from the side of the nut facing the frets all the way to the bridge. i thought you already made the fretboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 it may be "managable" but bending like crazy is my STYLE! maybe if i like.... use longer strings and lighter strings or something.... it would be managable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 longer strings has nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 LMAO i just realized........ MY NECK IS FREAKEN HUGE!! AND SO IS MY FRETBOARD!!!! OMG!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 btw the neck is done and clamped and it looks DEAD sexy.... flamed maple - cocobolo - rock maple - cocobolo - flamed maple SO sexy....... Im going to probably add a veneer because i need to glue "wings to the headstock" oh poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 If you have a 25.5" scaled guitar already, you can try tuning it up to F to get a feel of how it'd be on a 27" guitar... bend the heck out of them, see how well it stands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 omg im going to post a picture of my fretboard next to my guitars fretboard. LOL i'm such an idiot. notice the nice fretboard carvy thingy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluespresence Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Im going to probably add a veneer because i need to glue "wings to the headstock" oh poo You lost me there Snork Is your headstock not one solid piece of wood?? If you are going to glue wings on it like a body on a neck through I think you may be asking for trouble. IMO you're going to lose strength and risk "flying parts" when you put tension on the strings and tuning machines. Won't your glued on wings just let loose and you'll end up with tuners in your face (literally!) Or maybe I read that wrong, or maybe I'm just a moron...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezerboy Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 my guess it that the wings are stuck either side of where the tuners are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 exactly. i would never put that kind of pressure on a wing. and btw i just tuned it up to an F. its not bad at all actually.yes it is 25.5. but i don't like breaking strings so i think a 26.5 scale is just perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluespresence Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 my guess it that the wings are stuck either side of where the tuners are Yeah, that would make sense. I was asking for clarification on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 lol i may be lazy enough to mess up my neck due to not paying attention but i dont think i'm lazy enough to skimp on THAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluespresence Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I wasn't rippin' on ya Snork. Just asking a question to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 no i know! thanks for making me think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 i am sorry but how many times does it need to be repeated...a glued joint is stronger than the wood.the headstock wings would NEVER pop lose if correctly glued with titebond or similar glue.will not happen.if that was true every set neck in the world would be seperating and falling apart on stage. get over the fear of glue joints.make a proper fit,clean it,let it dry,and glue and clamp it for 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexVDL Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 well that doesn't count for a bad joint where's lots of glue involved... the secret is that both surfaces of the pieces of wood should be 100% perfectly flat, then apply glue and clamp it very tight.... this way almost all of the glue will come out... the less glue (tighter fit) the stronger the joint. If there's lots of glue the chance is the thick layer of glue will break... but even a bad glue joint should be stronger than wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluespresence Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 westhemann Posted on Jan 17 2004, 09:02 PM i am sorry but how many times does it need to be repeated...a glued joint is stronger than the wood.the headstock wings would NEVER pop lose if correctly glued with titebond or similar glue.will not happen.if that was true every set neck in the world would be seperating and falling apart on stage. get over the fear of glue joints.make a proper fit,clean it,let it dry,and glue and clamp it for 24 hours. I'm not arguing that fact as long as the joint is applied in the proper place and properly done. Is gluing a 1/2" x 5" piece of wood flush (90 deg joint, no biscuit or reinforcement) on the headstock where there is a lot of constant tension the proper place? I wouldn't do it, but that's me. A set neck has much more surface area for a joint as well as a scarf joint in a neck. I've seen several necks broken but never one broken at the glue joint demonstrating clearly the glue joint is stronger like you said Wes. BUT, that is a glue joint being used in a proper application. We can argue this headstock thing for days but it won't change my mind. I would never put wings on a headstock then place the tuners on the wing. To me it's a problem waiting to happen. But, that's my opinion.....like the saying goes, we all have opinions and they all stink to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 agreed,but it is a fact that the gluejoint is stronger than the wood around it.it wil not break at the glue joint. i just want people to trust that glue joint like they should how much pressure is placed on an acoustic bridge? a heck of alot more than on the headstock wing.and it is,in fact,only glued on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 I know the whole glued wood is stronger than regular wood but something just makes me a little frightened of wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 how much pressure is placed on an acoustic bridge? a heck of alot more than on the headstock wing.and it is,in fact,only glued on Well Wes, i was going to bamboozle everyone with a bunch of facts about glue strength vs wood grain strength, but i think you effectively KILLED, MAIMED, CHEWED UP, and SPAT OUT any further arguments with your comments. As for the doubters: GLUE IS STRONGER THAN THE WOOD ITSELF, PERIOD! Do you own tests if you dont want to listen to advice. Or, simply dont bother asking the questions any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 i does my best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 !!!!!!!IM NOT DOUBTING THE FACT I'M DOUBTING MY OWN GLUING ABLITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 !!!!!!!IM NOT DOUBTING THE FACT I'M DOUBTING MY OWN GLUING ABLITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats a double negative. You should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snork Posted January 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 no it isnt. i said im not doubting the fact that glued wood is stronger. what im doubting is my gluing ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 LMAO i just realized........ MY NECK IS FREAKEN HUGE!! AND SO IS MY FRETBOARD!!!! OMG!!!!!!! Perhaps I'm being naive, but if your neck is so big, could you use it for a bass neck? I'm new to building, so I don't know if the radius or fret spacings etc. would be screwed up, but it's just a thought. Another possibility is that I should be slapped very hard and cussed out for being a blatant fool. skibum5545 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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