Prostheta Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Yeah man, you deserved more success than you found. Plenty of far poorer builders have become more successful. There's no justice, I tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamzelix Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Your builds are inspirational. Incredible work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 well, i am back, yet again. It was a great break. I honestly just got bored. I didnt even really want to try anything again. I spent a lot of time just cleaning my shop, organizing and trying to get rid of stuff i didnt need or didnt want. After doing that for a couple months i started to get the desire back. This time it is much more casual. No real urgency to build like before. I think that has helped me be more relaxed about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Welcome back! Casual building is more fun, for sure. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Its been hard to do much lately. I actually got lasik surgery a couple weeks ago, so i cant be around too much sawdust. It is AMAZING to be able to see without glasses, i must say. here are a few projects. I cranked all these out in a few weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Riddler Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Absolutely stunning work, totally love the fretboard on the first one. Really amazing wood you got there, that quilted maple must be one of the best pieces I've seen in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Back with a vengance I'd say! Those are stunning! And that first one has got a serious snake thing going on, very cool. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKro Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Looking good Billy Ray, Feeling Good Luis. Good to see you still building Luis. 2016 builds are great!! Always, your friend, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Thanks guys. I dont know why photobucket rotated the pictures?? I have a giant stack of bodies that i have been gluing up the past week. I think i am up to 8. I really enjoy that part. Wish i could make money off of that! 1 hour ago, MiKro said: Looking good Billy Ray, Feeling Good Luis. Good to see you still building Luis. 2016 builds are great!! Always, your friend, Mike Good to see you are still around Mike. Great to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 10 hours ago, killemall8 said: I dont know why photobucket rotated the pictures?? That's one I can't figure out either. It does that to mine randomly too. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I got the quilted maple SS finish sanded. I am afraid to touch it now. I dont know how to finish it. I might save it for a while and end up splurging to have somebody professionally clear it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I know what I'd do with that quilt, but that's just me you know? I value the movement in the figure so I do everything I can to maintain and work with the chatoyance rather than against it. I'd go oil-shellac for the Maple, maybe the same for the Mahogany also. Tru-Oil springs to mind since I love my Sapele bass finished with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Prostheta said: I know what I'd do with that quilt, but that's just me you know? I value the movement in the figure so I do everything I can to maintain and work with the chatoyance rather than against it. I'd go oil-shellac for the Maple, maybe the same for the Mahogany also. Tru-Oil springs to mind since I love my Sapele bass finished with that. That is what i was considering as well. I know some danish oil would really bring out that deep quilt. So tough of a chioce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 That's your call of course. I've never really been impressed with any of the "Danish" oil products I've come across. Your own experience and product availability will differ from mine. Some are made with linseed/flax and others with Tung. I'm sure that most of them would bring out the figure nicely and deepen the Mahogany. I guess that I don't like how they are designed as a product to be used on their own....I've had more success out of combining simpler products, but again, you know me. Fiddle farting with the recipe! I got a super nice result on burled Birch using oil saturation followed by dark wax. The same kind of thing with raw cold press linseed and shellac. Danish oil type products always seem more "furniture" or turning end use than a guitar. To me anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I like danish because it seems to soak in a lot more. tung and tru oil seem more like an actual build up finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Depends on the product I guess. If it's solvent-rich then the surface tension will be lower, hence the higher degree of perceived penetration. I'm not sure if that equates to more product working its way in though. When I was testing the oils on the Visäkoivu for the Orgasmatron bass, the Liberon Finishing Oil was definitely that way. All solvent and no product. It penetrated easily but didn't give the happy oil fun times that the raw linseed did. From a casual perspective, this conversation about oily penetration and fun times is probably not that well thought out, or in fact intended. I'll take the odd "fnar". Tru-Oil can be cut with solvents for the initial flood coats so it can be laid into a thicker finish later. You just can't do that if the solvents are already part of the mix. Again, being a control freak I get pissed off when companies do my thinking for me and sell me product that is mostly cheap solvents than actual "stuff". That Liberon Finishing Oil is hella expensive, and perhaps more suited to wood turning than anything I think. It definitely feels like that is what it would be better at than workpieces like an instrument. Applied off the lathe kind of thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You would know much better than I. I just remember when i used tru oil, it was too much like an actual clear coat. Took forever to dry, left a ton of marks from application and didnt look much better than an oil finish. Purely user error though. Ive seen what people do with tru oil. I just never learned how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I recall you mentioning that, and I thought it was weird at the time. Tru-oil is pretty forgiving outside of certain methods of application. I think you might do well to give it another chance, but change up your approach. Shame you got put off it the first time around. User error, maybe. It's definitely a product to learn your way around though, yes. I only know as much as my test pieces have told me....! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Took the plunge and went with an oil finish. Looking good so far. Hopefully the final product will be great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Oil and figure are just made for each other. You should try and pick up a Maple burl set Luis, rather than a burled veneer. The craziness amplifies tenfold in that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 That looks awesome! You can also let that cure for a week or so and then shoot a nice deep clear over it if you so desire. SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Depending on the oil, I would say you could...but also shouldn't...mostly because a few rubbed coats of shellac would ensure better adhesion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yeah, ive already oil sanded it to 2000 grit. Might not have any adhesion properties left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 I've got nothing against a couple of rubbed coats of shellac between the clear and oil, it would only enhance the depth of the figure, and go a ways toward filling the fine maple pores. It makes a lovely finish as well, but I'd shy away from it in that respect for a guitar. Shellac doesn't play well with water and guitars players tend to sweat...... SR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Oil is funny stuff. I've read endless stuff about how it grabs oxygen as it cures (oxidises I guess) and why and when other things will even get around to bonding with it. You stare at the text and then think "ah fuck it". Shellac. If you can't work it out, roll off the cure all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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