Bizman62 Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, mistermikev said: just one question... how often do you do woodworking in your sauna? Rarely, but now that you asked, I remember having done it more than once. The main problem is that I don't have too many hand tools for guitar building or other fine woodworking. Our sauna has no heating other than the stove. When it's -5 °F both out- and inside it's quite nice to spread a tarpaulin on the floor under the Workmate bench and do some scraping and sanding while the sauna is warming up, taking clothes off as needed. At 120 °F it's time to wrap the dusty tarp away, fill the stove for the last time, broom the floor and lay the grating (currently roasted alder which is much nicer than the rubbery plastic) and go inside to prepare for the sauna. You know, when a bunch of Finns move to a location where the temperatures are above 100 °F the first thing they do is build a sauna - the UN guys as well as the project worker groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 wow, did not see that coming. I can't stand wearing my face shield for more than 10 mins when my garage is that hot... and sweating so much that I'm concerned about slipping. Def not ideal for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 @avengers63 must love this side track of his thread! Then again, he was the first one talking about weather and temperatures... I learned that the Ricky is a neck thru which I've kind of grown fond of. Who knows, maybe some day I'll build the bass I've been thinking of for quite some time and in that case that shape is definitely on my list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 In a few years, we're planning on moving. Probably to Tennessee. I'm sure I'll have some of that sauna action waiting for me. But until then...... side dots in... gratuitous fretboard shot... frets in, beveled, and filed flush end of the "under the fretboard' wood taped off to prep for the veneering then evening up the edges of the bookmatched veneer cutting out the fretboard area on the veneer if a big piece of MDF, a 2x4 cutoff for the center, some other various cutoffs, and 12 F & C clamps can't replace a vacuum veneer press for a flat surface, then veneering a guitar is simply above my pay grade. That's it for today. Nothing on the guitar. It's shower time, then booze & old wrestling videos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 And I wholeheartedly approve of derailing the thread into a conversation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 12 hours ago, Bizman62 said: A friend once got a job at a guitar building workshop far away but while moving he left his steel toes at home. Long story short, he soon had a bruised toe and couldn't go to work for several days. In fact, as I was leaving the garage after my last building session, I kicked the vice on my little bench with my little toe and split it open right at the tip. I might have cursed a little. I didn't say I was being smart, just comfortable. The sandals often give way to bare feet halfway through the day. SR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 6 hours ago, avengers63 said: In a few years, we're planning on moving. Probably to Tennessee. I'm sure I'll have some of that sauna action waiting for me. But until then...... side dots in... gratuitous fretboard shot... frets in, beveled, and filed flush end of the "under the fretboard' wood taped off to prep for the veneering then evening up the edges of the bookmatched veneer cutting out the fretboard area on the veneer if a big piece of MDF, a 2x4 cutoff for the center, some other various cutoffs, and 12 F & C clamps can't replace a vacuum veneer press for a flat surface, then veneering a guitar is simply above my pay grade. That's it for today. Nothing on the guitar. It's shower time, then booze & old wrestling videos I like your sense of humor. I'm crusing along thinking "well those dots look real nice, wonder what he used" then blammo Rick Flair to the face! I tip my hat sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 12 hours ago, mistermikev said: I like your sense of humor. I'm crusing along thinking "well those dots look real nice, wonder what he used" then blammo Rick Flair to the face! I tip my hat sir! I don't remember where I got them, but I use thin plastic rods for the side dots. I think they're 2mm. Super inexpensive. The hole isn't even 1.4" deep. A tiny drop of super glue, jam the rod into the hole, trim it flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, avengers63 said: I don't remember where I got them, but I use thin plastic rods for the side dots. I think they're 2mm. Super inexpensive. The hole isn't even 1.4" deep. A tiny drop of super glue, jam the rod into the hole, trim it flush. I actually just don't do side dots... but was referring to those lovely fret markers. they kind of look vintage like cream with a hint of orange. what material? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, mistermikev said: what material? Would it be mean to refer to the previous page? On 7/28/2019 at 6:40 AM, avengers63 said: Being a cheapskate, and not wanting to mess with making and routing the sharkfin inlays, I just make some huge maple dots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Not really getting to work yet, just eager to see how the veneering turned out. The squeeze-out mess was a hellofalot better than I expected. All I needed was a little cleanup around the fretboard, which I already protected with bue tape. Nothing got under it, but it required some encouragement to get off. The only glue that leaked out onto the top will either be in the pickup route or under the pickguard, so no problem there either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 That's some nicely snug fit there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 don't normally care for birdseye tops but I have to admit... that is going to look noice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 I love the huge maple dots. SR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 I hate getting old. I'm only 49, but I can't stand for more than a few hours now without being done for the day. Any, on to the pickguard. I traced the image, spray glued it onto some hardboard, finessed it into shape, routed, beveled, drilled, and the fucking thing is smaller than the original. I THOUGHT I had the image at actual size when I traced it. What's done is done. Even if I had the extra inch of length on the control chamber, there's no way in God's green Earth I'd fit all that crap in there. This is why plans deed to be kept fluid. It just went from an active pre-amp 3-band EQ to a generic 3-way/V/T. Life goes on. Part of the fun stuff - 99% of the routing to the template is done. Tomorrow I'll likely fer the pickup cavities and control chamber done up. Yes, the bottom is flat. IDK how it happened. I measured it and test fit it about 30 times before gluing it together. I have a cutoff with it in the clamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, avengers63 said: I hate getting old. I'm only 49, but I can't stand for more than a few hours now without being done for the day. Any, on to the pickguard. I traced the image, spray glued it onto some hardboard, finessed it into shape, routed, beveled, drilled, and the fucking thing is smaller than the original. I THOUGHT I had the image at actual size when I traced it. What's done is done. Even if I had the extra inch of length on the control chamber, there's no way in God's green Earth I'd fit all that crap in there. This is why plans deed to be kept fluid. It just went from an active pre-amp 3-band EQ to a generic 3-way/V/T. Life goes on. Part of the fun stuff - 99% of the routing to the template is done. Tomorrow I'll likely fer the pickup cavities and control chamber done up. Yes, the bottom is flat. IDK how it happened. I measured it and test fit it about 30 times before gluing it together. I have a cutoff with it in the clamps. well... that's a bummer but... if that's the worst thing that happens to you today you'll be doing "aight". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 11 hours ago, avengers63 said: I'm only 49, but I can't stand for more than a few hours now without being done for the day. Young man, you have something to learn about standing. If the floor is hard like the concrete in your workshop, the soles in your shoes should be soft and thick to compensate that. Or simply put a piece of something softer the floor. A piece of rubbery garage mat might be a good alternative. 11 hours ago, avengers63 said: It just went from an active pre-amp 3-band EQ to a generic 3-way/V/T. You'll learn how to find the desired sound much faster with that! 9 hours ago, mistermikev said: Yes, the bottom is flat. Isn't that for seating the jack firmly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 I was in food service for 20 years. That, along with a curved spine, left my feet & back on the screwed-up side. The jack was always going to be in a curved oval jack plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) That explains your feet issues. Even more importantly get a softer platform to stand on. 5 hours ago, avengers63 said: The jack was always going to be in a curved oval jack plate. Shhh... you weren't supposed to tell that! You should have said "Yes, that's why it's flat, just like on a Telecaster." Edited August 3, 2019 by Bizman62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Bizman62 said: Shhh... you weren't supposed to tell that! You should have said "Yes, that's why it's flat, just like on a Telecaster." Meh. I know you're just joking, but I've always documented damn near everything in my builds. Several folks have shown their appreciation for my "warts and all" approach. I felt it important to show the "younger" builders that yes, you WILL dork up something, so how you fix it is just as important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, avengers63 said: I felt it important to show the "younger" builders that yes, you WILL dork up something, so how you fix it is just as important. Quite right. Great luthiery is not about not making mistakes, it's about fixing them so they become features. I'm waiting to see your solution to the flat spot issue and refrain from suggesting anything until you've run out of ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 The best available solution was take a cutoff and glue it onto the flat spot. The other option was to steam off the veneer, add some wood, and re-veneer... and that wasn't gonna happen. It hasn't been sanded yet, but the pics below show the results. You won't see anything from 3 feet away, and it will be hard to see up close unless you're looking for it. So I got a late start today. The heat set in, and the end of my garage where the router table is was solidly in pure sunlight. Me sweating like squeezing out a sponge means I wasn't getting much done today. All I was able to do before pooping out was rout the body & headstock for the binding, put a roundover on the back, and hog out most of the pickup and control cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermikev Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 looking good. that birdseye is really going to suit the rick styling of that guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizman62 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 You sure did a fine job fixing that flat spot! The roundover in the underside hides the seam perfectly well. Is there going to be any binding on the top? If so, there won't be any visible marks even for the most eagle eyed viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 17 hours ago, Bizman62 said: Is there going to be any binding on the top? If so, there won't be any visible marks even for the most eagle eyed viewers. On 8/4/2019 at 5:14 PM, avengers63 said: All I was able to do before pooping out was rout the body & headstock for the binding, put a roundover on the back, and hog out most of the pickup and control cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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