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Last night while half-watching BBC4, I saw something that piqued my interest. It was a special light-absorbing black paint, which even when it had a torch shone on it just sucked the light up. The magic to it was that it was a coating of carbon nanotubes that were end-on tothe surface, so any light got pulled in, bounced around and its energy dissipated. Of course, my immediate thought was "how cool would it be to have a guitar body coated in that, a black hole guitar!" although I guess this stuff needs applying at a specialist facility, is horrendously expensive and may not be particularly robust either. Still, it's nice to dream...

Link to the programme on iPlayer is here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0017frm/secrets-of-size-atoms-to-supergalaxies-series-1-1-going-small

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BBC IPlayer only works for UK residents, but there are some paint products floating around that claim to have similar "light sucking" qualities. I think one if them is called Black 3.0 or something (sounds like a Lynx deodorant)?

Dunno if they're particularly hard wearing, or if sealing them under a clearcoat might ruin the effect? But I agree, it would certainly be eye catching to (not) see ;)

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Sorry, forgot about the BBC links not working for outside the UK, or not unless you set up a VPN tunnel to a UK IP address!

Had a quick search and found this page with some useful info - https://www.coating.co.uk/vantablack-coating/, sounds like nanotube paint is becoming more accessible but still eye-wateringly expensive and it also suggests it's not very robust. I do note the mention of a sprayable alternative, wonder what that would be like under a matt laquer?

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Saw this some time ago, the story of the blackest black is actually pretty funny. The folks behind Black 3.0 have a beef with the IP owner of Vanta Black (Kapoor)... even in the terms of use/sale, it's stated that anyone can buy Black 3.0 besides the Kapoor hahaha....

I was looking into ordering it and painting a few things with it for shits and giggles. But it's extremely fragile, and anything painted with it needs to be handled with care, so it's not a color to paint an everyday item with. I've seen it live, and it's super interesting and bizarre. You paint a contoured item with it, let it dry, and it loses all contours. It ends up looking like a 2D object, and when you rotate it, and it starts changing shape, it's pretty mindf**king. 

All in all, Black 3.0 can be ordered at: https://culturehustle.com/products/black-3-0-the-worlds-blackest-black-acrylic-paint-150ml?variant=41147281342622 

I'm now again tempted to order it and paint a few decorating items in my house with it haha...

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Thanks for posting the link - at that price, I'm tempted to buy some and just try coating a test piece, then putting a matt lacquer on top. If the results are good enough then I can see a future project being done with it.
I also keep thinking of the bit from "Restaurant at the End of the Universe" with the band Disaster Area's stunt ship, with the black controls on a black background...

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If you put clearcoat over it, no matter what kind, it will make it reflect more light for sure, you'll get a less black black as a result. I know that vantablack is super flimsy, Black 3.0 should be a bit more resistant but still... thinking of it now, I'll probably order a bottle, I have an artsy friend whose b-day is coming up, will use that as excuse to get it and see what she does with it and how it'll turn out :D 

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i have seen the infomercials about this quite a while ago... they paint a doll head black and then shine flashlight on it... similarly I instantly thought of applications with guitar.  as mentioned... once you clear over it, you are essentially going to negate the effect but at the time I was thinking this would be absolutely stunning to use on the inside of an f hole... and then perhaps do some sort of contrasted wood sitting on a 'peg' seemingly suspended in air inside the f hole.  it's on my list to try.  def if anyone trys the finish - would love to hear how that goes.

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Definitely something to experiment with, I'm wondering if it  would work to carve out the face of a guitar, paint the recessed area with the superblack so you'd only see the outline shape with the pickups, bridge and controls apparently floating in the void!

Hmm, when I'm a bit more flush with cash maybe I'll get some of the paint and pick up a junk body off Ebay...

Edit - not strictly relevant to the thread but this old Persil advert popped up in my mind, what with black being under discussion!

 

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