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CLEAR COAT DILEMMAS


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Two Dilemmas

1. I have an Ibanez RG series that my girlfriend did some custom art with Prisma color(Colored Pencils) The front is random stuff and the back is a mix of HR Gieger Work. I have begun clear coating, using regular clear spray cans from home depot. I think they are poly. Is it ok to finish using this spray, or should I switch to Nitro now??? Where can I find and affordable nitro spray???

2. I'm workung on a Saga guitar kit that came with a figured maple veneer. They sealed the wood (DANG!!!) so I can't stain the top like I'd like to. Wherre can I find a Transparent color spray? I would like to be able to see the wood grain a little. Or is it simply not worth the effort? Thanks for the input

-Seth

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There's nothing that says you can't apply the dye on top of the sealer coat...infact that's my prefered way of doing it. It often yields a more "3-D" effect; espically with figured woods. Additionally it will give you a more even color. Somtimes dye is absorbed differently on different sections of wood giving you dark patches...

I say give it a shot on a part of the guitar that will be covered by the pickguard as a test. If it looks good, then seal it in with sanding sealer or the like, and shoot your nitro.

FYI: look at reranch guitar finishing online...they have what you need and some helpful tutorials.

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There's nothing that says you can't apply the dye on top of the sealer coat...infact that's my prefered way of doing it. It often yields a more "3-D" effect; espically with figured woods. Additionally it will give you a more even color. Somtimes dye is absorbed differently on different sections of wood giving you dark patches...

I tried to dye over the sealer, and as I imagined, the sealer repels the dye. I'm using the Stew Mac dyes in the 2 oz bottles. Do you have any other suggestions? Otherwise I personally wouldn't recommend this.

Can I mix it with lacquer and apply it by hand? Or do I need to finally make the investment on an airbrush?

Thanks a ton

-Seth

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I just read a post below about mixing the dye with alcohol to help it over sealer? What kind of alcohol should I use. Seagrams? Bacardi 151? :D

Seriously though, are we talking Isopropyl alcohol like I can get at the drug store or is it something special.

I just want to get the dye to stick over the sealer. When I used water it repeled right off the sealer (I guess that's what sealer is supposed to do).

Thanks -Seth

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I'm afraid of going through the veneer if I sand, it is very thin. Even if I sand down to the surface of the veneer, won't there still be sealer in the pores? What is the most agressive grade paper that I should use? and what grade should I sand up to?

Thanks for the help -Seth :DB)

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I just read a post below about mixing the dye with alcohol to help it over sealer? What kind of alcohol should I use. Seagrams? Bacardi 151? :D

Seriously though, are we talking Isopropyl alcohol like I can get at the drug store or is it something special.

I just want to get the dye to stick over the sealer. When I used water it repeled right off the sealer (I guess that's what sealer is supposed to do).

Thanks -Seth

denatured alcohol is what you want....

but a glaze coat would work...mix dye with clear laquer and coat,let dry,and clear over it

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