urbansmurf Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 does anyone know what tool to use when routing the truss rod channel? the tutorial on projectguitar.com doesnt say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 umm...a router and a bit...or did you mean something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyderek Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 maybe an edge guide on the router it's self, assuming your neck blank is still square... like the first couple of pics in the "making neck thru" pinned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 heh, this is my first guitar making project, so please forgive my newbiness any tips on how to keep the route straight and correct depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 heh, this is my first guitar making project, so please forgive my newbiness no problem...it's called a router and you can get them at home depot,sears,or any place where you can buy power tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Oh, and if you haven't used a router before, look at krazyderek's router tutorial... and be careful!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Hmm... I should probably post the link before asked http://members.accesswave.ca/~derekn/routertutorial/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 heh, this is my first guitar making project, so please forgive my newbiness any tips on how to keep the route straight and correct depth? edge guide to keep it straight,and just be careful when setting the depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 i have a router, actually... dunno about the right bit though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 i have a router, actually... dunno about the right bit though the bit size depends on the type of truss rod you will use maybe you should read stewmac's tips on installing truss rods,derek's tutorial on using a router,and just read alot of old threads on this forum to get a better idea of what it is all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 ok, thanks alot guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 If you are using a double action truss rod, I would go with LMI's rod instead of Stewmac's. LMI's rod uses a standard 3/8" router bit while Stewmac's uses a special 7/16" router bit that you must buy from them. I plan on using my router table and a fence to do my truss rod channel. Be sure that you use multiple shallow passes rather than on pass at the desired depth! This will decrease the chances of the router jumping and prevent wood burning. Hope this helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 it did, thanks as far as the trussrod itself, im looking for a single action that is adjusted at the headstock with an allen wrench, do you know what that kind's called, and where do you reccomend getting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primal Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 I would still recomment using an LMI rod (because of the channel width). The downside to a single action rod is that you have to have an arched channel. Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 whats an arched channel? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 it means the depth is not uniform down the length of the neck...a 2 way truss rod is a uniform depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 urbansmurf, what part of the state do you live? You're actually the only other person I've seen from Arkansas on the forum. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 westheman- ok, cool Guitarfrenzy- you're the first ive seen too, i live just outside of bryant, how bout you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotass Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 erm so if i have the 3/8" router bit from stewmac I should buy my truss rod from LMI so i can just use my bit I have for the channel? question: how do you know how long your truss rod should be when you order it? something off of scale length? you have to have your neck made? etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Guitarfrenzy- you're the first ive seen too, i live just outside of bryant, how bout you? I live around 30 miles south of Pine Bluff. It's was hard when I started building guitars to find any local luthiers to talk to. I got interested in guitar building and repair after I took my dad's old Gibson J-45 banner year guitar to get it worked on and was charged over 300 dollars.. lol... Speaking of luthiers.. There's a couple good ones in Little Rock, and another in Batesville, but I haven't gotten to meet any to learn anything. I got a friend from Crossett who also is building guitars and we trade ideas. I always borrow his Stew Mac router bit to drill my truss rod channel out.. lol I'd also recommend you using a dual action rod even if it's not a stew mac one. They are much easier to install and work great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotass Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Guitarfrenzy- you're the first ive seen too, i live just outside of bryant, how bout you? I live around 30 miles south of Pine Bluff. It's was hard when I started building guitars to find any local luthiers to talk to. I got interested in guitar building and repair after I took my dad's old Gibson J-45 banner year guitar to get it worked on and was charged over 300 dollars.. lol... Speaking of luthiers.. There's a couple good ones in Little Rock, and another in Batesville, but I haven't gotten to meet any to learn anything. I got a friend from Crossett who also is building guitars and we trade ideas. I always borrow his Stew Mac router bit to drill my truss rod channel out.. lol I'd also recommend you using a dual action rod even if it's not a stew mac one. They are much easier to install and work great. would you reccomend the LMI (lmii.com) double action truss rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Yes they are really good also. You might want to check out Allied Lutherie site, some people say they are basically the same as LMI's, but for a much lower price. In my opinion there are 2 good things about these type of truss rods. One, you can use a standard size router bit. Two, the depth of the slot isn't as deep as the stew mac's has to be. But, don't get me wrong, Stew Mac's Hot Rod is a very good dual action truss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 If you are using a double action truss rod, I would go with LMI's rod instead of Stewmac's. LMI's rod uses a standard 3/8" router bit while Stewmac's uses a special 7/16" router bit that you must buy from them. erm, no.... 7/16th is the depth of cut. it is actually a .225" bit. I use a standard 1/4" bit and it works just fine. Im sure many other ppl here do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings_x Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 urbansmurf, what part of the state do you live? You're actually the only other person I've seen from Arkansas on the forum. Just curious. I'm fairly new to the board. I currently live in Indiana but will be moving to Little Rock later this year. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarfrenzy Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 If you are using a double action truss rod, I would go with LMI's rod instead of Stewmac's. LMI's rod uses a standard 3/8" router bit while Stewmac's uses a special 7/16" router bit that you must buy from them. erm, no.... 7/16th is the depth of cut. it is actually a .225" bit. I use a standard 1/4" bit and it works just fine. Im sure many other ppl here do the same. Thanks for the correction.. Yeah I gave the wrong numbers.. that's the depth of the slots, I had just woke up.. lol But I would still recommend using the .225" bit for the Stew Mac Hot Rod if you wanted a nice tight fit without any binding. Sorry, but it just works better for me to do it that way. I'm still interested in how good the Allied Lutherie ones work. If I'm not mistaken I think Krazy D bought about 10 of them.. lol Maybe he can shed some light on it. Cool Mike, maybe we can form an Arkansas Luthier's Club.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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