urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 i just bought a vintage gibson explorer that had a set neck (glued on) and it came clean off. lucky me, the owner thought it was worthless and sold it to me for 150$. my question is, is there some special kind of glue used, or can i just bolt it on? need feedback here so i know what to do. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrovore Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 When you say "Clean off", how clean is the break? If the glue bond failed Im sure that you can just clean off the old glue and re-glue it back using Tite-Bond or Gorilla Glue. If not just re-glue it back making sure that the broken pieces of wood in the break all line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 it was a perfectly clean break. no wood was broken, chipped or otherwise damaged. the glue just didnt hold up. so i can use gorilla glue? theres no :"super sustain/holding set neck guitar" glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 see, clean cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syxxstring Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 More than likely the glue didnt break it was mistreated. Leaving guitars in your trunk etc... will soften the glue. I think most woodglues melt at the 120 degree point or so.(could be wrong on the temp) I remember reading a frets article on how someone disloved a vintage martin by leaving it in his trunk that they had to reassemble. I live in a place where the temperature is regularly 115 in the summer, a car in a parking lot can reach way above that. It sounds like you could clean both sides of the joint and reglue it. Titebond is the usual choice available just about anywhere that sells wood working or craft supplies. As always pics would help. If it truly is vintage even waiting to borrow a camera and posting pics would be well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Did explorers ever come with those trems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Yeah, really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Mailloux Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 I'd say you got yourself a prety damn good deal. 150$ for a vintage explorer and 30 minutes of work to reglue it!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLS Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 are you sure thats a gibson? Because that trem looks odd. Never seen a explorer without a tune-o-matic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 i don't think it is a gibson.looks like a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 idk, it says gibson on the headstock, but i dont care either way i love explorers, gibson or otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 also, even if its not a gibson, its still a vintage explorer for 150$, including shippin. ill take it the seller owns a pawn shop, and doesnt know anything about guitar repair. the previous owner was a very serious player and may have put the trem bridge in himself. who knows, i like trem bridges better anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 would there be any downsides to bolting it on? if ythe guy ships it today, it -might- be in by friday. im playing in a show friday and would like to use it then, but glue would take to long to dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 would there be any downsides to bolting it on? if ythe guy ships it today, it -might- be in by friday. im playing in a show friday and would like to use it then, but glue would take to long to dry yes there is a downside.set necks have a thinner back to the neck pocket.it would not be stable,you need to glue it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biblical Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Gibson now use Gorrilla glue, try that stuff its rrrreeealllllyyy strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Luthier Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 You need to wet the surfaces with water if you use Gorilla Glue, I would personnally use titebond, or this other stuff I got from Lee Valley, don't know the name though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 would there be any downsides to bolting it on? if ythe guy ships it today, it -might- be in by friday. im playing in a show friday and would like to use it then, but glue would take to long to dry yes there is a downside.set necks have a thinner back to the neck pocket.it would not be stable,you need to glue it what are you talking about? set necks are much deeper than bolt ons, and notched too. stability wouldnt be the issue, i meant in terms of sustain, or general sound quality. maybe i glue AND bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 read my post CAREFULLY...the neck pocket on the BODY,is deeper,therefore there is LESS wood to run your bolts through,creating less stability. glue it,no bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 but by all means it is your guitar.if you wish to make an improper fix that you will regret later,go ahead.run bolts all the way through it put 10 of them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoads56 Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Certainly not a gibson. What makes in a "vintage". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 settle down wes, geez ok, gorilla glue it is thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 settle down wes, geez ok, gorilla glue it is thanks all be sure to clean it properly...remove ALL the old glue and wood dust...done properly,it will be better than new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 oh by the way i would use titebond....gorilla glue foams all over the place and will be alot tougher to remove the excess from your finish...that stuff keeps foaming for like half an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbansmurf Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 ok, thanks how long does it take for titebond to fully set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckguitarist Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 maybe i glue AND bolt then what's the point of the bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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