bizzare Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Is it possible to build a through Les Paul with no neck angle and a tune-o-matic, and is that reccomended if it's possible. If I cant have the tune-o-matic I'll probably have a floyd rose. I just wanna know my options with my choice of neck construction. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whisky182 Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 If I cant have the tune-o-matic I'll probably have a floyd rose. umm, i though les pauls had tune-o-matics any way!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiled Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Carvin's don't have neck angles and they use tune-o-matics. Just route a pocket below the bridge, deep enough to be able to use the adjusters to get your action where you want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzare Posted April 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Carvin's don't have neck angles and they use tune-o-matics. Just route a pocket below the bridge, deep enough to be able to use the adjusters to get your action where you want it. I don't understand what you mean, have you got a pic or diagram to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiled Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Sorry, I looked around a bit but I couldn't find any pictures that would help you understand. Basicly, as if you were going to route for a pickup, you need to route a pocket for bridge so that the top of the bridge will be level with the nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzare Posted April 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Oh I understand know. So its not that hard? Thanks BTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzare Posted April 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 If I cant have the tune-o-matic I'll probably have a floyd rose. umm, i though les pauls had tune-o-matics any way!? Yeah but most Les Pauls dont have Through necks and no neck angles. I read on Warmoth that you need a neck angle for Tune-O-Matics so thats why I'm asking here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 My Godin uses the recessed TOM style and it works groovy. No need for a neck angle if you do it that way. Keep in mind, though that the Godin for one (not sure about other brands) goes string-through right into the body in order to get enough downward angle from the strings after the bridge. If you try to go into a stop tailpiece, you won't get the right string angle and all will be lost. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Neck angle is probably gonna be easier than recessing your bridge. It's really not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 I was considering a recessed TOM for my guitar, but I think that an angled neck will balance both the look and feel of the guitar out a bit more. If anything, it'll likely be easier than recessing the bridge. Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krizalid Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 the T.O.M. is consist of the tailpiece and the stop bar right? if i don't want a neck angle on the les paul, i'd just recessed the body so the TOM, would have the same level as the nut. am i right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 The simple answer is no - if it doesn't have an angled neck it isn't a Les Paul. Besides, if you want to build a Les Paul you better be able to cope with cutting an angled neck pocket or tennon, because it's far from the most complicated task you've got ahead of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Strictly speaking, if it's not a Gibson it's not a Les Paul. I'd be more concerned with building what you want to build than "authenticity" anyhow. To answer your question: A "Tune-O-Matic" is just the bridge part, though when people think of TOM, they also think of the stop tailpiece. I haven't done ANY of this myself, but just by looking at the stop tailpiece, you can guess that recessing the tailpiece won't really work. Even if you could pull it off, if you recess BOTH, then you're definitely looking at more work than simply angling the neck or neck pocket. In short, I personally wouldn't even consider recessing a tailpiece. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defiled Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 What if he moved the tailpiece closer to the bridge? Wouldn't that maybe give the strings enough of a downward angle? Most likely not.......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setch Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Strictly speaking, if it's not a Gibson it's not a Les Paul. I'd be more concerned with building what you want to build than "authenticity" anyhow. Greg I disagree. The value of a Gibson logo is a subjective, anyone can build a Les Paul, but not a Gibson. The addition or omission of a logo is not quantifiable or concrete, whilst a significant design feature like neck angle definately is, especially when you consider the knock on effect that omitting it will have on other areas of the guitar. If the intention of the poster is to build a guitar which performs like a Gibson Les Paul, he has to be faithful to the original design. Every significant variable he changes will result in a difference in performance, be it in feel, sound or appearance. Of course, if his intention is to build a guitar which fits his needs better than an off the peg design, then you are absolutely right about building what you want, and to hell with the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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