Rich Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 someone asked for a pic of this earlier maybe wes?? i still have found nowhere to stick the damn bar lol Its got as locking nut too Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 thanks for the pic.i am confused it is obviously a tremelo but comparing it to a flat mount it seems to be missing the cam.(the part the bar goes in).it looks strange.why don't you measure from the nut to the bridge at the roller on the #3or#4 string and see if it jives with the scale from the nut to the #12 fret (doubled).maybe i am crazy but it seems like the saddles are too far back in the bridge as if someone modified it incorrectly.to be clear it looksas if the cam is missing and the saddles are moved back to compensate.i don't even know if that is possible but that is what it seems like.if your scale is longer than it should be then that is probably what happened.i have seen people do all kinds of strange things to guitars and i think you mentioned it was like this when you bought it.anyways tell me what you think.i am really curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCord Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 God, I haven't seen one of those in 10 years. Ugh. Those were Kahler knockoffs from the late '80s. there is no cam, like a Kahler. They balance on pivots on the front left and right sides of the middle "floating" part. They have terrible tuning stability. I'd tell you to chuck it and get a real Kahler, but unfortunately, the routs are completely different. There are a few cool features of these though. The bar goes in the holes on either side of the saddle, so the trems are left- or right-handed. The allen key on the very back edge of the "floating" part allows you to lock the bridge into a non-floating position. Peace ~d~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 I wondered if it went in those holes but then i wondered *** is theyre one on each side?!?!?!?!? any idea where i can get one of the bars for it? Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCord Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Nope, sorry. I can't remember if the bar is threaded or push-in. If it's threaded, I'd try a metric bar from allparts. Also, the allen key in the front of the bridge adjusts your spring tension. It's a cool design, too bad it doesn't work. LOL ~d~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 25 bucks for a kahler trem arm!!! why the f*ck should i pay1/4 of what i payed for the guitar for the f*cking trem arm l;ol they can go f*ck themselves lol F*cking to top it off 50 bucks for the whole trem unit!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 OK lol no that im done with that lil rant lol Ill try a few "strat" trem arms i have and im going to guitar show in 10 days (hopefully our fave mod from hell will be their ) and ill take her to see if i can get anything thatll work there Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Its threaded and i got a strat copy trem arm to work and the whole thing is a major POS lol im only using that guitar without the trem ....One thing i realley hate bout it is the arm doesnt move easily like on a strat so its in my way when im playing Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCord Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Hate to tell you I told you so, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 I know you told me lol but i always gotta find out for myself!!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEdwardJones Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Don't let Dennis fool you. He LIVES for "I told you so." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCord Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 I do, I admit it. Anyway, I've a had a few emails from forum users about these trems. If yours is broken, good luck. They're made of the world's cheapest pot metal (not brass like Kahlers were) and if a structural part breaks you're f***ed. Kahlers will not fit without major modification to your guitar, due to the totally different rout. Nearly every guitar maunfacturer put these on their low end guitars in the mid to late '80s. Search on eBay for your cheepie brand of choice: Dean, Hohner, Washburn, Ovation, Aria, ESP, et al. Good luck! ~d~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 so dcord you sound like your familiar with kahler.what's your take on the flatmount.i want to know if i should get one for a v i'm building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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