headless Phil Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 has anyone got experience with LSR tuners? I intend to use these in a reverse head configuration with a wilkinson roller nut & wilkinson trem system. Also I intend to use the adjustable spring claw system which I think is made by schaller - saw it on Status web site as they fit it to their 6 strings. advice welcome Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 A word of advice when using the Schaller Sure CLaw. You may need to allow for the size of the sureclaw when routing the spring cavity. The size of the area where the hex adjuster is doesn't always allow for enough spring tension. Your results may vary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I'd actually quite like to know about any experience with the LSR tuners too. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Phil Posted May 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 anyone??...LSR's??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 go to ed roman's site for more info on them...i think they are quality,but nobody really buys from ed around here to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Phil Posted May 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 For anyone interested - I mailed intertune who produce the LSR's in the states. They sell direct on the internet but if you are in the UK (like me) they have a UK distributor - bailey guitars in Scotland. Think I will avoid Ed Roman - had dealings with his pricing on the steinberger stuff - no thanks. I think I am going to take a chance on these, even though I would have prefered a recommendation from someone who has actually used them. The only point of reference I have is an old review in guitarist mag of a jackson custom shop, which they quote them as being ' straight out of the top draw' .....which I assume to be a good thing. Phil C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 yes i think they used them on some of the roswell rhodes guitars, the silver ones with crop circle inlays From what I hear they seem to be pretty good for tuning, but they are like 40:1 so thats a lot of turns if you want to drop d or tune to an open chord or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbkim Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 From what I hear they seem to be pretty good for tuning, but they are like 40:1 so thats a lot of turns if you want to drop d or tune to an open chord or something Traditional tuners are about 16:1 so that'd be 2.5 times more turns for 40:1. Steinberger tuners are also 40:1. Dropping the 6th string from E to D took just about one full turn. Tuning the entire guitar up from slack is pretty quick. If anything, having the 40:1 would be better for fine tuning . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 ' straight out of the top draw' .....which I assume to be a good thing. Phil C. off topic,but the correct saying is "top drawer" i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Phil Posted May 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 thankx 4 grammar correction ;-) .....dont u find i.t. people just get lazy with that! I use steinberger stuff now, so I'm used to 40:1 ratio & like it. This is one of the main reasons I wanted the LSR's - my next custom will have a headstock but its 14 years since I had a guitar which was not headless! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 I've heard of a Bailey guitars from England, but not Scotland. Where is it? EDIT: and by that I mean is it in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Frot Willaim, Wick etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren wilson Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I almost used LSRs on a project guitar, but they're limited in the maximum string gauge you can use with them, so i opted for regular Gotoh locking tuners instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 They are? What is their max string gauge? Cos i like to use thick strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansil Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 hmm didint' know about the maximum string gauage.. i used 13's on mine with no problem but i sold that ibanez so i can't tell you what the thickest it woudl go, but i loved them the local luthier from my home town showed them to me. pure genius.. ie the tuners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Phil Posted May 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 max gauge is .060 - I always use 9 to 42 or 9 to 46 so no problems there. This is the site for Bailey, they dont actually mention LSR's on the site but I have contacted them & the do stock most options. www.baileyguitars.co.uk Bailey Guitars Burn House Cottage Culroy, Maybole, S Ayrshire KA 19 8 ER SCOTLAND/UK Tel 01655 883 138 mark@baileyguitars.co.uk this is the site for LSR tuners http://members.aol.com/intertunei/LSR.tuners/ Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcamp67 Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 go to ed roman's site for more info on them...i think they are quality,but nobody really buys from ed around here to know Wes, why do some folks here have a problem with Ed? I have scanned his site, and while he seems to be an SOB, he seems like a fair buisnessman. Any reason why I shouldn't buy a guitar from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 go to ed roman's site for more info on them...i think they are quality,but nobody really buys from ed around here to know Wes, why do some folks here have a problem with Ed? I have scanned his site, and while he seems to be an SOB, he seems like a fair buisnessman. Any reason why I shouldn't buy a guitar from him? you are asking the wrong person...i have never bought from him i check out his site quite often,but i hear his interpersonal skills are not too good... but i know nothing from firsthand experience what guitar are you considering from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcamp67 Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 what guitar are you considering from him? Thanks for answering, wes. I WAS considering a JET, but I did a search on ER in this forum and have read most of the stuff about him, as well as following the links to other forums and reading the "thoughts" there. I think I will try to find another seller of Jeff's guitars...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowser Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 yea the main issue people have with him is that he often doesnt seem to care about the customer once he has their money (i have not dealt with him though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headless Phil Posted May 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I contacted Ed regarding a steinberger trem system, he quoted me $1200 + shipping. I got one from another dealer for $600, I understand supply & demand but this was alittle TOO much for my tastes. There is a lot of talk on the Steinberger forum (too much in fact) regarding Ed. At the end of the day if you dont care about the cost he is ok, unfortunatley thats counts most of us out ;-) Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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