Curtis P Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Ok, i cant get a brass pickgaurd to use as a ground, so i have a piece of ASH that i got cut and sanded for it, now my electronic cavity runs almost to the neckjoint, can i drill a hole to it and use one of the neck bolts as a ground? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 no because the neck Screws aren't really a ground. you need the ground the Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefm Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 The ground is on the jack... hooking the bridge to ground is a convenient way to ground the strings which can be pretty noisy...the screws don't contribute to the noise...grounding them wouldn't help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 ok, how would i go about grounding the bridge? Curtis Its a GOTOH tune o matic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I read it wasnt very safe to ground the bridge, do to electrical shock when playing. Is that somthing we should worrie about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rradams Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Hi Curtis, Grounding a TOM is usually easy. Depending on where the control cavity is located you can come in thru there or thru the bridge pickup cavity. Drill a hole from one of those into the TOM post holes. Run a ground wire from a good solid ground (a vol/tone control pot etc. ) into the TOM post hole. Be sure to strip the wire enough so that you make contact with the knurled part of the TOM mountin post. Pressing the mount into place will make contact with the ground wire and effectivly ground your strings. Hope this helps. Rubin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I read it wasnt very safe to ground the bridge, do to electrical shock when playing. Is that somthing we should worrie about? it isnt if the place where you are playing isnt properly grounded. and if you are worried about this, then place a light fuse on the wire so that it burns out if you do get a shock. also ultimately the grounds lead to the jack socket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jabsco Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 lol, ill probley be using tapewounds anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Thanks, will be grounding today Will be playing today, if all goes right *crosses fingers* Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I read it wasnt very safe to ground the bridge, do to electrical shock when playing. Is that somthing we should worrie about? ALL passive guitars ground the bridge... if you go active,there is no need i have only been shocked by a passive guitar which was not properly grounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 That's a big bonus (along with many others) with using actives. I think there's a product available that tests the equipment (amp, ...) to see if it is grounded properly. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Something you just plug in and it gives you the status. I know most people are already familiar with this topic but for those who are not - even if you properly wire and ground the electronics in your guitar - if you plug into equipment that is not wired/grounded properly all of your excellent wiring skills won't save you. Sorry - I guess I'm in a preaching kind of mood today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Rosenberger Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I think there's a product available that tests the equipment (amp, ...) to see if it is grounded properly. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Something you just plug in and it gives you the status. it's called a Circuit Tester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myka Guitars Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I read it wasnt very safe to ground the bridge, do to electrical shock when playing. Is that somthing we should worrie about? It is something to worry about. READ THIS: Shock Hazards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I think I read that you can wire a cap in right before the output that will reduce the shock so it's not really damaging, but it won't mess with your sound. I don't know a lot about electronics, I just read schematics and wire up, so I don't know if this would work, or what value cap you'd need. Anybody with more info would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 well in your home you are in no danger really...just get a wireless system or active electronics if you play different places alot...wireless is cooler anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Good...I'm planning on going wireless in the next month or so anyway. Whenever I get the money. I think I'm gonna get the Samson UHF guitar wireless that's supposed to run on a AAA for 14 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Good...I'm planning on going wireless in the next month or so anyway. Whenever I get the money. I think I'm gonna get the Samson UHF guitar wireless that's supposed to run on a AAA for 14 hours. Are you taliking about the small bug with the antenna(no pack and cord)? Also to answer the first question... I heard that wiring a certain value resistor and capacitor in parallel with the ground can eliminate getting shocked by poorly grounded arenas or whereever you gig. I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 its easier to just place a fuse on the wire that grounds the bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 does the resitor/cap thing work the same as a fuse or different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 well basically (i beleive) the shock dishcharges into the cap instead of your body, as it wants to go throught the path of least resistance, while a fuse just burns out if theres a high voltage, i think the fuse is safer, as there is almost no chance of getting shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Thanks TR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 dont take it as the absolute truth im not in any way an expert in this, but i would go with a fuse, if you are that worried about being shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hy_dro66 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I use mostly emg's and I have a wireless unit I use at most gigs so I'm not planning on getting shocked anytime soon. I was just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 it's called a Circuit Tester No, I'm talking about something that is made for musicians who don't know a meter from their a**. I'll see if I can find it. I can't imagine you average guitarist knowing how to test something like that with a circuit tester. Zaap!!! I thought I remembered seeing an advertisement for a product that you just plug into the amp (and maybe the outlet as well?) and it gave you an indication of the grounding status with a green or red LED. I don't know where I saw it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myka Guitars Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I heard that wiring a certain value resistor and capacitor in parallel with the ground can eliminate getting shocked by poorly grounded arenas or whereever you gig. I don't know for sure. This is partly true. What this does is limit the voltage to about 40 volts. You will still get shocked if the outlet is not grounded properly but it will not kill you. The resistor value is 220k and the capacitor value is .001 yf (micrfarad). Make sure everything is rated for at least 500 volts. It is better than nothing but the outlet tester is the best way to go. Just test it and don't plug in if it isn't grounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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