killahworm Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 okay i have searched the forum, and didn't find anything. would it be okay to use appletree for a body or neck, or would it get f***ed up?why so. and it should be rather obvious that i am a noob by the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truerussian558 Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 apple tree..., though it might work, you might want to go for something more traditional as a first, but im sure it has been used before and the reason it isnt used is that it had some problems with it, but the only way to find out is to try. also it would be good to find some physical (strenght wise) charecteristics of apple tree, and if there are any known lumber problems with it (grain splits easily, etc) experioment thats the beauty of building guitars, experimentation, you might be on to a knew big thing in guitar building, and it lets you bring the meaning of "finding your sound" to a new level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Might be interesting, I've never heard of anyone using it. I know a few years back I was concidering using Orange tree wood for a neck. The only way I could though was to first find a very old Orange tree and those are not typical in Florida unless it is in the wild because the farms usually let them grow a limited number of years before replacing them. Never took it past the initial idea though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 okay i just might give it a try, cuz we had some old apple and pear trees in our garden when i was like ten, and my dad said yesterday he had some pieces or lumberbit lying in an attic. i would think it is nice and dry by now. (i'm 21) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey69962000 Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 i have lemon trees. They are too soft i think though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themikestro Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I've got some apple wood ply boxes, seems like tough stuff, but very open grained, probably more so than ash even. I don't know if it's a neck wood, thats an elite group of very hard woods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehle Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Applewood is strong enough to use as flooring. It may not be that dense, like a hard maple, but it may work with an extra carbon fibre or two and that truss rod. Just my guess. I'm an oldie (not a noobie), and I didn't search for this (so there), but is there a chart showing the sort of wood density and strength for the different types? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 sorry to disappoint everybody, but I only saw the pieces a couple minutes ago, and they are way to small to make a guitar. I remember the trees as being big, but i guess its the dilusion of youth... everything seemed so much bigger then. its like 30cm or 12" across so no appletreeguitar this time around. but I will check with the local lumbermill if they have anything in storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalo1022 Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 well how thick and long is it because if youve got some length on there you could always do a 2 peice body and if thats not thick enough it could always be used asa top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 yeah I was thinking maybe glueing lots of pieces into a cool pattern as a top, and have mybe an alder or ash body, as they are rather abundant in Norway. will talk to the local mill on monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehle Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Didn't krazyderek just glue up a 7 piece body recently? With the size boards that you mention, a 2 piece body should work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 its not boards, its a log... we cut down the trees from our backyard... and i think i know why there's so little use of appletree in guitars, its so crooked and bent. But I was wondering, since it has so big pores, is it going to be soft, or is that not a part of how soft the wood is? and since i have to use grainfiller, would i still be able to get the figures of the wood, or would the grainfiller cover it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey69962000 Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 sorry man. Look at the side with the properties. http://www.iswonline.com/wwp/wom/apple.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 perhaps a neck-trough V would be the trick, that way i wont need as much bodywood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 We have an old plum tree in the back corner of the yard that we are planning to take down in the fall. Its a gnarly old bugger, and the wood is VERY dense. But the odds of finding a "clean" length of wood for any guitar building is pretty remote. Either way, I will investigate when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 haha I hadn't looked good enough... further back in the attic was to big pieces... looks like its gonna happen, i'll post pics and such as soon as i get things off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Sounds great! Can't wait to see this thing get up off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 i won't know if it'll sound good or even look good, but if nobody tries, then nobody will know... and if its a f-up it might or even probably is because i have never built a guitar before... (have been reading much of what has been written here though...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrock Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Might be worth going for a bolt on and building the neck (if you're building the neck that is) out of something more traditional. That way, if apple wood is duff, you could build yourself a new body and everything will be happy in the world again . It'll be even easier to make a new body if you make some good templates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killahworm Posted July 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 I am buying the neck from the local luthier (never thought I would say that I had a local luthier... we live somewhat remote) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litchfield Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Most fruit woods are kinda bright I would think. I know Cherry is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alarung Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 This guy uses apple in some of his stuff. As fretboards, I think... George Rizsanyi. His guitars are markted under the Maritime label these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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