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  1. I just got out my Epi Paul and checked it with the tuner down the first few frets. I think I am expecting to much. I know it's right. It's showing the same properties. I assumed that where you fretted a string, that's the note you would get. When I saw the kit guitar going a bit sharp or flat below the 12th, I got worried that something was amiss. Looks like all I really need to do is get the nut height down a bit more on the high E side and that will be it. Nut height. I'll have to remember that. I never have had one so high that it caused this kind of problem. I also learned not to expect perfection on ever fret all the way down the fingerboard. I guess my standards were too high. Not necessarily a bad thing overall. Again thanks to all. I think I have a much better handle on what is going on and what to expect.
  2. Cool. These last few post have helped out alot. I did notice it being off initially by ear and confirmed with the tuner. Lowering the nut height has improved it and is almost undetectable to me by ear now, though I still see it on the tuner. What I have gathered from these last few posts is to not expect perfection on every fret. Particularly the ones close to the nut. I think I may have been expecting to much. More than likely, a bit more work on the nut and all will be good. I'm hoping to be able to mess with it some more later today or tomorrow. I'll post the results. Thanks all, Ken
  3. I still have the original nut that came with the kit. I never tried it simply because it didn't fit the slot. It's about .025" to narrow. The new nut fit perfect for the width of the slot. Maybe glue in a small piece of wood on the back side of the slot so that the original nut fits?
  4. That's the part that is throwing me off as well. I can understand the nut height influencing down to the 5th or 7th fret but, after that, it should stay relative and not continue to get flatter the father down the neck you fret. This is why I was originally questioning the scale length and is it off for the fret spacing.
  5. Like this one. Frets where already installed. I pulled the nut and lowered it. It seemed to get a bit better but still has the same issues. I'm going to play with the nut height some more and see where it leads. Worst case, I'll mess up the nut and have to get a new one and start over. It also seems like the fret board is a different radius than what the nut is cut at. A set of nut files would take care of that but for what Stew-Mac wants for a set, I can't do that right now.
  6. Let me try to explain it better. Lets say that 1.00 is the correct note at a given fret and anything above 1.00 is sharp and below is flat. From there it goes.. Open) 1.00 1st) 1.11 2nd) 1.10 3rd) 1.09 4th) 1.08 5th) 1.07 6th) 1.06 7th) 1.05 8th) 1.04 9th) 1.03 10th) 1.02 11th) 1.01 12th) 1.00 13th) 0.99 14th) 0.98 15th) 0.97 And so on through to the last fret. Does that help explain it better? It's hard to solve a problem if it isn't explained well. Sorry for any confusion.
  7. What would you like to see in the pics? Just want to be sure they are from the correct angle.
  8. I just went though and did both. Intonation was good both methods. I will pull the nut and lower the high E side a bit tonite and see what happens there.
  9. I use a Korg Chromatic CA-30 tuner. Set at std. 440hz. I use it to set both the open strings and intonation. When I tune, I don't look at initial reading but will give it a sec to settle. The initial reading is always sharp no matter what I plug into it.
  10. Thanks for the replies. Fret distances from the nut to the 1st and 2nd frets are spot on using a dial caliper. The 12th fret also appear spot on but only using a tape measure. I don't own a capo so I tunes the high E string to F just by fingering at the first fret. With that tuning, all the following notes down the neck got flatter as I went. I also remeasured the nut height and it is too high. About .025" with a open E string at the first fret and around .012" with the string fretted between the 2nd and 3rd fret, measuring at the first fret. The low E string is much closer to the finger board (about .017"open and .005" with fretting as described above) but exhibits similar problems as the high E string. open tuning good and goes sharp at the first fret. From there, down the fingerboard, gets progressively sharper. With the 12th fret intonation spot on. The low E doesn't have this problem to the same degree as the high E string. One side of my head tells me "Ya get what ya pay for" while the other side says"This should be simple. Just figure it out" I will adjust the nut height on the high E side and see where that leads me. BTW....I did replace the cheap plastic nut in the kit with a better Fender nut.
  11. I checked the nut height according to the tutorial here. It's right. I also checked the location of the first fret and it is correct for a 25.5" scale length. As is the 2nd fret and the 12th. What is happening is that as you fret any string, it will go from sharp (1st fret) to flat (22nd fret). The only fret that is correct is the 12th.
  12. First, I would like to thank everyone that answers and that I'm sure this is a basic question for virtually everyone here. A while back I bought a cheap DIY guitar kit figuring it would be a good place to start and to learn from before I spent alot of time and $$ on a scratch build. I have it build and it sound like what you would expect from a cheap kit in beginners hands (like crap) but I have learned alot. but, there is one problem I have yet to figure out for sure. The scale length is suppose to be 25.5". I can tune the open strings to standard and adjust the intonation at the 12th fret just fine. The problem is that at the first fret, it is sharp and progressively gets better till I get to the 12th fret. After which, it will start to go flat from the 13th fret on. I am pretty sure this is an error in scale length but have no idea as to whether it is to long or to short. If I am right in that it is the scale length, would it be better to adjust at the bridge or where the neck bolts to the body? Again, thanks to all that answer. Ken
  13. I picked up some "pure glycerin" from CVS pharmacy today. We'll see how it goes. Thanks, Ken
  14. I did some more digging around the web and found that it is all the same. Now I know a few places where I can get some.
  15. I found glycerin. Never heard of "Rockler" I just want to be sure glycerin is glycerin is glycerin. I thought about getting the pre made stuff (for about 3 seconds a few days ago) but I would like to get pressing the veneer ASAP.
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