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Yeah that makes sense, thanks RGGR.

This is what I know, correct me if I'm wrong. I remove all the strings, the tremolo depresses into the body bec it is pulled back due to the springs at the back in the tremolo cavity which have not been removed..right? So then to push the trem back up and make it normal again I place a small wood block on one side, the side which is the spring side, not the other side. I also place a big one on the othe side incase i put really heavy strings and tune the guitar to B, or drop A, so that the bridge doesn't rise or depress? That is it right? Also my guitar has a Piezo ..what should I do?

so, i need advice on blocking the floating tremolo on an Ibanez Rg 2020X. What tools would I need? What material, and if I can do this at home and if it is easy? It seems easy, measure cut and place? that's it right? Please help me, I ned to do this badly..I can't order a tremolo no, mainly bec i don't wanna use the trem at all, so the on an off wouldn't help I just want it off.. if there are any tutorials on the site, please don't scold me or ban me,I just couldn't find any, also.. I would need something on making a nut and attaching it..please point me to some links or anything, thanks alot.

I love it, the bands good too, best of luck with the brutalizer stuff.

Yup that helps, adjust the tension AND Retune, that's what I wanted to know, though, How do you retune ? some chap I knew Used to just tune the guitar so fast! Normally when you tighten one string the others loosen ..so I can't see how it can be done fast, that's what i am aslo asking..like anyone know any shortcuts tips etc.. as to retuning..how to do it faster..for eg. if you tune with balance it is better, like I mentioned above, so how else..anyway maybe I am being vey vague..forget it. Thanks.

Since I have a bad hand I can't do unecessary typing, but this is imp..so I will have to do this.. A floating tremolo, needs balance or equal tension when tuning. If you tune the sixth string to E and then you tune the A then the D, it will start to lift from one side and will be difficult to tune and it will take more time to get the trem straight and standard..Now, I learned this trick off an instructional video of Eric Johnson where he tunes the guitar from the centre and then tunes out. He first tunes the G string, centres the bridge and then what I do is tune the D. 2 centre strings tuned! then I do the same for two other strings, the strings being the second and the fifth and then the sixth and the first. When I reach the outer strings I repeat the same process inwards. I keep doing that till It tunes up. Now, what i have understood is when I tune the 1st string to an E and the Low E to an E simultaneously and then move onto the next string group, which is strings 2 and 5, the B and the A string, when i tune B and A simultaneously the tuning of the E's i just tuned goes off by a bit, as on a floating tremolo if you tighten one string it loosens the rest. So I though since the thickest string is E, and it creates most balance/tension/pull on the trem, I could even try and tune up the trem when it is completely flat in pairs with the Low E. FOr eg. Tune the Low E and the High E. Tune the low E and the B and then the Low E and G string and so on. This I feel is quite good too. I could even tune the tremolo back up in 2 pairs of 3's and one combination of 4 strings and then use the inward and outward tuning..The pair's of 3's being 6-3-1, and 6-4-1 and the four pair being 6-4-3-1. Anyway! My point is I want to be able to do setup's for myself and they should be as good as professinal setups, fast and accurate. Also since I'm gonna be knowing this and doing this for myself, I might wanna earn little money doing repairwork, setups, wiring etc..while I pursue music and wtvr..etc!...I might just get a second hand crap guitar with a floating trem and take it out and then reinstall the tremolo..and do that and stuff.. So I was wondering if anyone has anyone information, basic understanding type stuff, tricks, tips shortcuts, WISDOM, to share with me since earlier when the first guitar I bought was a floating tremolo equipped guitar and I didn't know Jack and I was quite small then and I feared the trem abnd stuff and the guy I bought the guitar from told me , and many people told me that this is something I shouldn't mess around with and guitar techs perform the stups and setup itself was a scary word! but now I can afford to mess around and do stuff as long as I don't adjust the neck and bow, since that cannot be repaired and this cannot be damaged anyway, you know, earlier on setting up a guitar a floyd equipped tar to a low tuning was a professionals job to me and now it's like piss man, nothing to it I guess! So is it actually safe for me just mess around with the trem and tuning and action? What I am saying is that even if I take the trem out, It can still be re-insled..right? kinda like a string? but obv more complicated.... Also I think the floating tremolos are awesome! I can't play much guitar or I can't do whammying much, but from what I have heard and seen people, people like Vai, it is absolutely Jaw Dropping, and very inviting I must say, I just feel like mastering this bridge now and knowing everything about it..SO.. Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere in what I have written above, and partly why i wrote in the form of facts rather than questions cause I just wanna let the person readingmy post know what I know, and then ask questions and well ask for correctino and more Info since I wanna learn and know more, So also what's your approach when retuning a floyd, when tuning the bridge back up? and anything else you can think off, that I, would wanna know or should know!? Also I forgot, Let's say I'm allin tune and the tremolo angle needs to be raised, or decreased, so I tighten or loosen the strings from the screws in the cavity at the back(Don't know technical terms) , will I have to retune the guitar or just do a pull or dive bomb and then tune and then the result will show when I look at the tremolo Angle, Am i being clear or is this query of mine hard to understand. When the trem angel isn't right, we do what we need to to fix it, like either tighten or loosen, so...Will it automaticall show a difference up front at the trem when I've finished adjusting the tension from the back? or will I need to dead the trem and retune?

2. What's the guitar? If it looks 'flat', it's probably satin poly, might be oil. Ibanez Rg2020TB... Also I have seen alot of products, cause uptil now it was a piece of cloth only, but i saw this extreme metal polish and then this and then that and there are tons of books on maintenance and tons of things that cna happen to your guitar over the years...thus i was asking, so what about all these products? like extreme metal polish, guitar polish etc..and comparison with lemon oil, I bet there's alot of Info, but anything's fine just want a general idea so that I can use this guitar for years to come and not have to replace it or regret not taking care of it..also what you would do or do ..thanks people!

Nothing here related to building, but as a person who plays his guitar.. 1. What can I use to polish/clean the neck every now and then..often I'd say..? 2. I can see that the neck isn't raw wood something has been applied on it, what is it? what kind of finish? 3. I have seen the fret polishing tutorial on the site, and I want to clean all metals on the guitar now and then, while changing strings? 4. What can i use for cleaning and maintaining the body..? 5. Silarly the fretboard wood isn't finished and i want to maintain,take car, of that too.. i took my guitar to a shop nearby and the dummy just put some polish on a cloth and rubbed it on the fretboard and now all that white polish has gone in the tiny openings in the fretboard, very mnior but still pissing off.since that day on I've decided, guitar tech's repairmen can go to hell, unless it's a world renowned company or professional no-ones touching my guitar..anyhow, shall I just clean that with a toothbrush? I could use a medium toothbrush since I'm not too sure about hard toothbrushes since they can ruin the board though I doubt it..? 6. Also I can't find anything that I can measure 1.2,, with, a steel ruler won't do for me..it's quite impossible? I had a 6inch steel ruler and I couldn't measure with that to 1.2, very tough, any reccomendations..please no order this and that, anything simple and inexpensive.. I have seen this action measurer at stewmac, should i get that..any good...how does it work? Also i wanna take care of the electronics and I don't want them to rust up over time and stuff like that, and I wanna be able to open my guitar and clean everythingm cahnge the strings, set the action ..everything..so what would you reccomend I should buy, get, books, read up on..etc.. 7.What else can I do? Have I missed anything out on maintenance and stuff>? Thankyou alot.

can i just glue that extra piece onto the body itself?

http://www.jcguitars.com/jacwar1.JPG Now, I want to add that thing at the end of the board and naturally change the direction of the pickups, but i already know how to do the pickups, more or less. For the end of the board .. How shall i go about producing that and adding it to the fretboard/neck? Also when pickups are slanted does it have any realy effect on tone, kinda like a fanned fretboar where you're going short on the treble and the bass is long, similarly the pickup moves upwards and the bridge pickup will end upfine on the lowest string, but the thinner you get the pickup will move higher.. is this weird or will it have any effect on the sound and if so how much. It looks really cool but I don't wanna do this If it's gonna be TOO tedious and weird. The only thing is I'm getting a chrome, WRXT second hand and I don't watn a chrome bridge/hardware.. any suggestions as to what I could do, Love the Warrior man, though if you have any tasty pics or links or anything, I'd like to hear. Thankyou.

I will. Thanks.

So how does the truss rod actually work, For eg. You pick a string, so there's contact and the follow through. what you've oltd me is uptill the stage of contact with the string, now when you follow through a proper/actual nte is produced, similarly, you've told me about it, so the rod acts works how? Also a simple question, backbow is concave and upbow is convex?..when guitar is held vertical body facing you..not the back.. If it's a steel rod how deoes it TIGHTEN?

What is the general shape of a truss rod? IS there only one shape? The truss rod channel in the neck is what shape too? The trsuu rod shape and shape of the channel and the parts of a truss rod, and the turning of the truss rod key.... .anticlockwise and clockwise has an impact on the neck how? clockwise-tighten anticlockwise loosen thus I am guessing clockwise is upward bow. and anticlockwise is bow downwards? I am trying to understand everything about guitars and floyd rose guitars so that I can set up guitars as if they're meant to be played by professionals . ..For myself i wanna set up properly my guitar and naturally the more i know the better i will be, this is one place i can ask questions. Thankyou.

Anything that is good for Sweeping Arpeggios and tech metal(rythm stuff). Influences - Paul Gilbert, Michael Angelo, Rusty Cooley etc. I don't want to spend much. I just want a Floyd on the guitar a decent amp and a decent pedal or sumthin for a nice tone so atleast i sound nice. I don't wanna play any cover songs. I wanna do this full time, music/tar etc. I plan to jam along with songs and stuff, for the purpose of learning and learning from stuff that influences me. So if I wanna jam to Mother War(Decapitated) and stuff I wanna have a decent sound, prolly a metal tone so i can be happy jamming along. That's just the tone and music and amps and pedals and stuff. The reason i started this thread is because I have played on a RG370dx, and man sitting here on the internet i could never have known how it would play but RG's with wizard2 necks seemed like decent guitars, until i played one. I guess I like a slightly thicker neck but since i'm into stuff that requires speed and stuff, shredding and stuff i guess a thick neckk would suck, but as a beginner i prolly won't be becoming blinding fast anytime soon, so i don't know what to go for. I've been trying to read and see which is good, for radiuses and neck thicknessed, but i can't relly say with measurements, but i know for sure the thin necks are crap for me, and i'll prolly know which tars good once i pick it up and play on it, like i knew that i didn't like the ibanez. If you have any suggestions i'd like to hear them also for the amp and tone and stuff and also for what pickup combination pedal etc. Thank you.

Hi i'm going to be buying a guitar soon and i have to choose which one. I'm having difficulty choosing a guitar. I don't care much about it's shape and colour. I want a guitar which will play well.

I agree, you don't know anything.

If i just wanna practice what is the best stuff i could use. Should i get the blades and make the saws, buy second router, drill, etc. Is basswodd cheaper compared to otherwoods. Like plywood will work fine for a body what should i use for a neck and what should i use for the fretboard. Also if i wanna practice airbrushing and i'm not at all good at art and stuff or even copying stuff.Should i take a few classes or F that and just practice with the airbrush? EDIT: im gonna keep the airbrush on hold but i really wanna practice building. I was thinking i should build with plywood what do youthink, if i build one and it sucks really bad i'll use other woods, but i don't want o use ebony for the fretboard and make a thousand mistakes and well make a crappy guitar with decent wood. I wanna have some experience before building with good wood so what can ipractice with? For eg routing on plywood before touing cavities on the body itself, also for fretting i was thinking i have 2 guitars old ones are those good enough to get used to fretting?

Great Idea. But i think you need more detail. Infact there should be a noob thread, kinda like a too lazy to use search feature thread.hehe..

Which guitars haveneck angleson them andwhy? I can'tseewhyaguitar witha floyd rose would needone.I'veonly heard of a gibson les paul havinga neck angle. Also why does a neck need to taper?

I found some answers in another thread. SHould have searched before asking. ust one question how expensive would powder coating be if i did it at home and what would i need?

Yes, made sense. Thanks.

Looks fine to me , why do you think it needs a pickguard? Also what's wrong with the shape? looks sweet. What Strat is that in the background?

Hey mattia, Questions- 1. I can understand the relationship between pitch/tuning and tension. Drop tunings rsult in lower tension. But i can't get how a thicker gauge is gonna increase tension. Heck man Zakk Wylde tunes his guitar to E and uses .10's and man does he bend those strings. He's a madman! Is it because theres more string to tense up or tune thus resulting in tighter feel/tension on the thick string. 2. Lets look at it like this. My low E's tuned standard. Its a 25.5" scale lenght, Now i go baritone and i pull the bridge back or i just pick it up with my hands and place it further back.(just imagine it diagramatically, a thin line for the string a rectangle for the bridge and let tension be X..LOL! SO when i pull the bridge back in the diagram im guessing because the lenght is increasing and theres more area/lenght to tune or because as i pull the bridge back i also pull the string back resulting in more pull on that tuning or more tension? Like, a standard tuning on a rg1077xl will be tight, but when tuned to A it would be normalish for that guitar? Atleast what i heard from my buddy who has that tar said that its not meant for standard tuning, no that's not what he said he said that it's better in dropped tunings/lowtunings and that standard tuning causes increased tension becaused of the increased scale lenght. That's what got me wondering a while backabout this, and i was like, i understodd what i could by myself and applying logic, which im not sure i am applying,LOL, but i though it won't really matter, what matters is how i play and i also thought knowing about tonewoods properties and stuff like this can help me become a better player and i was like considering how much i know how to play i'm far from worrying about knowing this stuff. When i'm more professional or bette or advanced i guess more technical details come into playing till then it's just wheeee! LOL! But now i'm building or approaching building this is very important, also earlier i didn't know this site existed! Could you give me a more technical detailed explanation. I Understood what you said about tension and tuning and stuff, that's very basic. Low tunings are flabbier, i know that. But i just can't put it in exact words and understand the theory behind such a concept like increased scale lenght and it's relation with tuning and increased scale lenghts. If i can understand why(because theres more lenght to tune so to get to E in 27" scale lenght requires more string winding because of the more legnth?) prolly i can actualy undestand the fanned board better. Though when i did read about why a fanned fret on novax guitars it did make sense but i still couldn't actually toally grasp the idea after analysing what was written. Edit: I forgot to say thanks, and i also appreciate help and i'll return the favor though i can;t think of anything i might have to say which you don't already know. Also thanks to Mickguard and Greg.

I've been doing some thinking and i have some questions. I can't understand how tension reduces and increases with changing scale legnths(shoot me!), I Just can't word it out all perfect and stuff. Also i'm thinking a fanned fret will just make me stretch more on the bass side. Though as i ascend it'll prob have nice feel to it, i guess? I'm pretty sure i'll be able to tune pretty low and the fanned frets will help with dropped/alternate tunings. But does a fanned fret help the tone? I read at novak/novax? guitars that it helps in tone and clarity of the note and why it does. But does it really?(I've read and understood but that's all on paper!) And if it does help with the bass so much, then if i drop a fanned instrument down 2-3 steps the higher strings are gonna drop too so then i guess it really won't help. Won't a baritone tar be better? Greg, 31 frets for doing odd note groupings on high frets using alternate picking. Really sounds good. I haven't heard any Arps and stuff yet. Also it'll help me do this dimini shred thing-31-27-24-21(Applications-string skip, alternate pick, double string technique etc). It'll good fun to do that and jam to Beneath The Massacre?No? It's def not for bluesy type pentatonics! LOL! EDIT: I might build one outta plywood and all kinda crap just to see what fanned frets are all about and to compare it with straight frets. Anyone has a fanned fretter or played on one ever/? EDIT2: Also i'm pretty amateur at playing and well i don't know anything about building and i don't believe in - "oh well, i'll build a telecaster and then i'll build 5-10 more guitars and then build the guitars i actually like." Please excuse my amateur questions and my noobness about guitars in general, i am here to learn and i hope you guys can help me.

How Difficult and mistake free would it be for a beginner to build such a guitar. If i practice routing on scrap etc. and do all practice on scrap and then approach this and also if i make a six stringer out of plywood with the cheapest parts i can find and obv it will have a fanned board and 31 frets etc. then would it be stupidand impossible? Also it's not illegal to build a fanned board for myself is it considering i'm not gonna sell the guitar or anything? Also I'm thinking i'll build a seven with 31 frets without a fanned board altogether it seems kinda weird. Maybe later i Might build one but what's your take on it? I want the guitar to have a Humbucking Pickup and one volume knob. ALso i was planning on borrowing the idea of having thinner fretwire on the higher frets and also a custom body shape which lets you access all the upper frets. What scale lenght would a 31 fret guitar fit? Please help me out. My guitar making books arriving in a few days and I'll start as soon as i've read it a few times and done asking my questions.