JimRayden

These look cool. But as I don't have a color printer, I'd like to try out Jehle's method. With his method I can paint the colours "behind" the outlines. That sounds cool. One question remains: what's that "water based glue and sealer" thing?

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Jimbo

You've got some measuring to do.

I think usually they make the 2 extra frets with the fingerboard longer than the heel. Most possibly it'll fit.

Still, measure, if you can.

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Jimbo

"think maple"... you mean thick?

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Jimbo

The solution - string-through with a wooden floating bridge.

Real cool idea: what about glueing a wooden "extension" for the body so there will be a "blob" with holes through it and it would act like a normal TOM tailpiece. Would look real cool. then add another blob for the bridge and put some fret wire on top of it. Or it could be one big blob.

"Licensed by Rayden Instruments" THE BLOB-O-MATIC ("BOM")

Edit: The Blob-O-Matic Bridge (B.O.M.B.)

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Jimbo

Well, the papers say the body is mahogany and the top is quilted maple. I don't think they could tell me anything more precise.

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Jimbo

I must of mixed up the words. It's a darn thin piece of maple. That's what it is.

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Jimbo

Yea, I have a classical one. That's what made me thinking. What are the pros/cons of using a flat board?

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Jimbo

It is an ESP indeed. it's the ESP EC-100.

I don't know how they could help me more than this forum. I bet they would talk me out of refinishing the guitar and ordering a custom one from them.

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Jimbo

A lil' off topic: It might sound like a really really dumb question and is propably been talked of over and over again. How dramatic difference would it be if I left the fretboard flat? I mean, playing-wise.

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Jimbo

uh, I don't think I could find water slide paper around here...

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Jimbo

I have a pretty dark red quilt maple flat-top les paul. But I'm not too happy with the quilt's deepness. The quilt is beautiful, all bookmatced and looks to be having the potential to have a real deep 3D to it. I thought of sanding the body, then applying some real dark stain, then sand it and then refinish it with red stain and clear (and maybe adding a lil' burst in the process).

But the thickness of the top veneer is really scaring me off. It's paper thin, I have a feeling that when I stain it and try to sand it, I'll go right through it. Any pointers? Bad idea?

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Jimbo

Just beneath you. The little Finland-like country called Estonia.

You know, the cheap lil' place you come to buy loads of cheap beer and take it home.

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Jimbo

I have a 24-fretter. Yay.

Although, I just realised, the routing of the neck and neck pocket wouldn't help too much. The problem is, I have an LP shape and I have no use of the upper frets since I can't keep my thumb hanging over the neck when I reach there. The body comes in the way too soon. I also need to get rid of some wood at the cutaway part. I decided to first sand the finish off that area and start carving the surroundings of the neck pocket until I find it comfortable. It mostly needs carving on the backside, so the front wouldn't be too modified.

Is that a good idea?

I'm afraid the refinishing wouldn't blend with the original though.

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Jimbo

http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/logo.htm

Is it important to use spray adhesive? Wouldn't a wood glue like PVA do? It dries to pretty transparent.

And what's that "water based glue and sealer" thing?

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Jimbo

What about transparency film?

Edit: Woah, another finnish... How many finns are here anyway?

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Jimbo

Hmm, the page says the decals are vinyl. I've heard that the vinyl slowly eats away on the finish of the guitar if you place the guitar on a vinyl-covered amp or something similiar for a looong time.

But it might be my bad memory, maybe it was something else.

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Jimbo

Woah... Some serious 3D you have going on there. It's like the quilt spots are poking out of the wood a few inches. Is it me or does your quilt have a kind of triangular fashion to it.

Really... amazing.

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Jimbo

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a 'Black Beauty' was a THREE pickup black Les Paul with gold hardware? 

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Not necessarily. I've seen some 2-pickup versions too.

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Jimbo

Wow... that body does look real real real cool. I bet you'll get a promotion for this one.

Anyway, Are there any fabric-finishing tutorials out there? Do you first take the old finish off and then put on the fabric? What glue is needed? What's vernish?

You know, all the usual pack o' questions that n00bz0rz ask.

I though of building a tele and carving a pattern on the top. Now I'm thinking of a fabric-finish instead.

EDIT: Found one: http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/mat.htm

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Jimbo

Yea, it'd be like The Ultimate Scalopping.

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Jimbo

I'm kind of helping to hijack my own thread,

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And you'd better cooperate with us

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Jimbo

You're evil, RGGR.

i think my guitar is not yet ****ed up enough... and people would stone me to death. (though there will be alot less people than the JEM-revengers )

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Jimbo

Oh, so you're just searching for an easier way to build a guitar? Well good luck. Guitar buildin'g isn't supposed to be easy.

As to experimenting a kinda new design, it'd be a great idea. But just for labor saving... :\

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Jimbo

First, I don't need a screw-down look. (though it's a cool idea) I thought the double-stick tape thing would start melting when there's lots of ppl in a small room and the strobe lights on it. It usually gets pretty darn hot.

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Jimbo

I shall screw it down.

And I don't have any pickguard space to screw it down to, since I have an LP and the metal pieces are too large.

I took a pic: http://www.hot.ee/playout/caddy.jpg

Looks sweet, doesn't it? Don't look at the knobs, I'll buy a new set in a month or so.

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Jimbo