GEdwardJones

Well from the looks of all of your posts tonight, it would seem as though you did not wake up on the right side of the bed mr. rhoads.

edit: I guess that's actually today for you.

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You're just lucky i dont ever wake up in a bad mood, otherwise i would have put you on a two week vacation for that comment.

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Perry,

Speaking as someone who barely comes here anymore anyway, and thus couldn't actually care less if I get put on timeout or whatever.

Your initial response in this thread was, at best, spiteful and meanspirited. Now if you want to be spiteful and meanspirited, fine, have a ball. But, then you have to accept that people are going to call you on it. Making threats to people who call you on it is a craptastic thing to do.

So, let's be nice. This guy sold a guitar for 150% what it cost him to build the guitar. I don't know how long it took him to make it, but I know that he felt that it was a fair price for his time. Maybe your time is worth more than his. Maybe your products are better, I don't know. I don't care. Telling dude he's whoring himself out because his prices don't meet the standards of Perry's Price Per Router Rotation Matrix was uncalled for. I don't care if you're a Moderator now, you still need to play nice.

This is shaping up to be a really cool project.

Now, if you'd do a mini ramp tutorial (with coping spine)....

Oops, sorry, thought this was ramp plans dot org for a second.

can you answer one question - it may sound stupid lol - can a sustainer act as a pickup when it is not actively sustaining??

Not at all stupid...in fact it's the only time that I know of that it's been done...check out about page 49 of the Sustainer Thread to see pics of it being made...

His primary guitars were/are a G&L Rampage, a Gibson Les Paul and a Boogie Body (Mighty Mite?) strat that he made in shop class in middle school.

Just my opinion, but. Yes. I've always had a soft spot for those guitars (Yamaha RGs)

to me..a flying v is the most comfortable shape to play.

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This is the 1st time I dissagree with you, I hate the feel of the V's, but I play sitting most of the time... I love the shape thought.

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ever see a metal band on stage playing sitting down?i NEVER sit down to play,except acoustic.

as a result,i don't play well sitting down.so a v is perfect

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Just last night I saw Hetfield sitting down while playing.

It happens

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on an acoustic,you mean?that is the only time i have ever seen hetfield play sitting down on stage.he used to play gibson vees as well as explorers.i wonder if he still does when not on stage endorsing esp?

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Nope, they were playing like "Search and Destroy" or somesuch. It was in the Some Kind of Monster extras. He was playing an ESP Explorer.

He plays a lot of Les Pauls on stage.

to me..a flying v is the most comfortable shape to play.

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This is the 1st time I dissagree with you, I hate the feel of the V's, but I play sitting most of the time... I love the shape thought.

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ever see a metal band on stage playing sitting down?i NEVER sit down to play,except acoustic.

as a result,i don't play well sitting down.so a v is perfect

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Just last night I saw Hetfield sitting down while playing.

It happens

In the US there is a such thing as "fair use." Fair use basically says that there are situations where you are technically breaking the copyright/patent/trademark, but it has been determined that you don't significantly injure the copyright owner.

Examples of fair use:

Taping television shows

Making a photocopy of a couple of pages in a book.

Making a backup copy of a CD

Yes, fair use is also important. Not having a go, but you arent "technically breaking the copyright/patent/trademark"- it is a licence to use SOME of the intellectual property in the said medium. I know it sounds pedantic to mention this point, but 'fair usage' trumps the ownership of the copyright/patent/trademark- you are not breaking anything.

Fair usage is differs in all juresdictions, but the theory behind it is the same- in Australia, you can photocopy 10% of a book (or one chapter- whichever is greater) - you CANNOT copy a CD to tape (even if you had bought the CD),

UNLESS you have prior license to do so.

GE do you know if the "fair use" tag extends to countries out side of the US? I would imagine it does or there is some form of equivalent to this. I think a lot of the confusion in regards to this is because everyone on this forum does live all over the world where of course the different countries have different laws. However it does go to show with the whole copyright and trademark issue that it can obviously be attacked in several different ways ( at least thats from what I can see in this post ). Maybe we could take the best points from this discussion and enter them into a bullet point reference of what can and cannot be done? It may be easier for people toi understand than having to read through this entire thread and could be a good quick reference tool??

I think we all generally understand that you can build your replica, the problem comes with selling or passing that replica off as the real thing. I so hope I got that right!! 

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As far as I know all countries have fair use provisions, but they differ greatly from country to country, they even differ greatly from year to year in the same place. Fair use (at least in the US) is part of the common law, that is - AFAIK - there aren't a lot of "fair use statutes" written in law books, it's basically evolved from court rulings over time. The most famous of which (off the top of my head) was the ruling that VCRs are not, in and of themselves illegal because they can be used for more than just making bootleg videos, for instance they can be used to "timeshift" television shows so that people can watch shows they would ordinarily miss.

I think the thing to do is to not trust 100% the advice of a bunch of guys (many of whom aren't even lawyers) on a guitar forum and do some quick research. Probably the easiest thing is to go to the business/law department of your local college/university and talk to the intellectual property law teacher for five minutes.

Another important point to make is in relation to building copies of existing guitars.

This, too, is illegal (even if you dont add any decal). It does not matter if you sell it, or if its just for your own use.

Let me explain...

By making a copy of a guitar, you are breaking the copyright ownership of the guitar's designer (or their assignee) in relation to the design or blueprint of the guitar. It doesnt matter that you dont actually use the physical plans that they used- it is still a breach.

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I'm not going to try to pass myself off as an authority on copyright/trademark/patent law. But I do know this.

This statement is flat wrong.

In the US there is a such thing as "fair use." Fair use basically says that there are situations where you are technically breaking the copyright/patent/trademark, but it has been determined that you don't significantly injure the copyright owner.

Examples of fair use:

Taping television shows

Making a photocopy of a couple of pages in a book.

Making a backup copy of a CD

Fair use is why you can sing happy birthday to your friend, but you'll RARELY hear it sung in a resteraunt (it hasn't entered the public domain, the resteraunt has to pay the copyright owners performance rights if their staff sings it).

Fair use is also why you can make any guitar you want for personal use. If you want to make an exact copy of a Les Paul, you can make an exact copy of a Les Paul. You can even put "Gibson Les Paul" on the headstock if you want to. What you can't do is sell it. You also can't make 1000 les paul copies and give them away (the patent owner could declare that this would be harmful to their business).

Let's not scare people. You can make all the copies you want. Selling them is a whole 'nuther thing.

ON th eGibson issue, he may not be able to do much in overseas sales, but look at the extreme burocracy that happened when they made PRS pull all the Singlecuts out of the market.  And the PRS don't even looks like a LP like the Agile does. But why? Because PRS is a much better instrument than the Agile and is a more strong adversary!

That doesn't even make sense. PRS is, however, higher profile. A win against PRS is a much better PR move than a win against Rondo Music. The quality of the instrument had nothing to do with it.

  Why don't Gibson goes against ESP for the eclipse!!! There is a lot of liitle strings that are pulled in this copyright stuff that you need a doctors to understand it well.

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Didn't the Eclipse originally look exactly like the Les Paul? Didn't the EX originally look exactly like the Explorer and the V like, well, the V? I've always suspected that Gibson started sending out cease & desist orders right around the time these designs changed. Is anyone in the know around?

Jeremy,

How long is your patent good for?  Is there and expiration date?

Best Regards,

Mike.

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Someone can correct me on this, but it's a finite period 15 - 25 years. The original purpose of patents was to make it economically viable to be an inventor. That is, if you invented something cool, you were given exclusive use of that thing for a period of time in order to recoup the money you spent actually inventing it.

Patents eventually lapse, as do trademarks and things do eventually go into the "public domain" where anyone can do anything they want with them (useless knowledge, the original Mickey Mouse shorts were slated to go into PD last year, an event stopped by massive lobbying by companies such as Disney to extend the copyright period).

Exclusivity rights must also be protected. This is why Fender's bid to patent the strat/tele/etc. shapes may be an excersize in futility. Unlike Gibson Fender has never really done much to actually discourage other people from making exact replicas of their bodies for the past 50 years. The argument would be that Fender didn't care enough to stop people from copying their designs for the past 50 years, screaming "but they're ours!" now doesn't cut it.

And that's about as short as I can parse down my business law course when I'm this tired.

Denise's boss went to Cinci Wednesday.

"Dee, they're expecting 8 inches of snow. do you think, I'll get snowed in," he said...with a laugh.

36 hours and four delayed flights later....

Good to see you back Mr EdwardJones

Thanks,

The bad thing about being an adult is that life gets in the way sometimes.

I got that off of the forum for a car club I belong to. Apparently the car would be completely illegal in most places and was built specifically as a show car with SEMA being its first stop. I haven't seen the whole thing completed (the pictures on that forum have still having it on stock wheels), but it was something that I hadn't seen before and seemed cool nontheless

Of course there's the obvious Extreme Application of the Process.

Anyone read quebecois?

Digitech RP100. I swear by it, it's cheap and sounds great.

Yes, yes,  his fiancee'.  so, Kev, when are you gonna make her an honest woman again?

I have to make her honest again? When did she stop being honest?

My guess, when she hooked up with you...

My fiancee', the ever-awesome Rachel, is a Financial Planning Manager for Victoria's Secret. She owns Tremol-No #0029, so...she gets listed on the Endorsees page with a link.

Yes, yes, his fiancee'. so, Kev, when are you gonna make her an honest woman again?

for a half pipe, i would use skatelite or masonite for the top, for the sides, plywood will work fine, use 2x4's for the ramp support and 4x4's for the structure itself

Curtis

skatelite's not an option, too exspensive. I heard that masonite has a tendency to get slippery.

Just FYI, I'm building a mini-halfpipe in my backyard, the surface is going to be plywood, but for the sides I wanted to go with the strongest possible, because I'm not what you'd call a "small" guy and I didn't want to land and have the ramp crumble under me.

then it occurred to me that I'm going to be making a template for a body soon as well.

To stop before the comments begin, I'm NOT building a guitar out of either of them, in fact what I'm doing has nothing to do with building a guitar at all. However, tangentally, the answer will be applied to making a template in the future.

So, that all being said, which is more durable, MDF or plywood?

See also - Raven West Guitars.

when i get my seven string completed,i will have another one...it will be tuned to G

It's because he loves me...

I read once that there was actually a difference between "coil tapping" and "coil splitting."

Coil Tapping properly refers to changing the humbucker from series to parrallel (or back) which gives it a similar sound as a single, but with less noise.

Coil Splitting is cutting the volume from one of the coils of a humbucker, which gives it a sound similar to a single, but with less noise.

I've never read this anywhere else and for the whole 18 years I've been playing, I've never heard anyone refer to coil tapping as anything other than killing one of the coils. anybody else heard o' this?