conor1148

so.. you dont know how to split the pickup's signal for one to go to the output jack and one to go to the preamp?

what is that filter in the diagram where the pickup signal splits from the output jack and to the preamp?

alright, i got my wire, and im ready to rewire my guitar as a standard guitar.

does anyone have a wiring diagram for how to wire the sustainer in the circuit of a regular guitar? i understand you hookup the pickup outputs into the input of the amp, and the driver into the output of the amp. but where is the output of the whole guitar?

so i got my order in today for my switches! im really excited to get started!!

my order consists of i think..

-10 spdt

-4 dpdt

-2 3pdt

-2 on-on 4pdt

-1 on-off-on 4pdt

got it all for $17 i think ;D

Wow. Where did you get them?

This project is looking great so far. I'll be really interested to see how it turns out.

a special hookup unfortunately :0 ill get some pictures of the switches up soon if i remember to. ive been too busy drawing up my final schematics and diagrams.

this is gonna get crazy pretty quick..

so i got my order in today for my switches! im really excited to get started!!

my order consists of i think..

-10 spdt

-4 dpdt

-2 3pdt

-2 on-on 4pdt

-1 on-off-on 4pdt

got it all for $17 i think ;D

dont know if it would be relevant or not, but my guitar teacher has a noisy cricket that the creator himself (a good friend of my guitar teacher) had built for him, and It is a very good sounding little amp and is incredibly good with battery life. great little amp to plug into a cab.

got it, im going to test everything seperate. first ill set it up like a "normal" guitar, then ill do both my piezo and sustainer seperately but at the same time. that way i can build upon each other's build and once i get frustrated with one side, move to the other. everything seperate.

about the circuit, i may be able to order my components soon for all my builds and 3 customer builds (feels so good to have customers! ) so i need to start coming to a close on my main design.

progress may become slow, because as of tonight im officially an Eagle Scout! so i gotta finish up my stuff for that.

check out the build log#1 on youtube, just kinda a quick demo of what's going on.

please ignore my asperger-influenced/slightly country talking.

got it, i will be making the system with all of the pickups/driver having a quick disconnect system so i can test out many different combination much easier.

for the neck pickup and driver, i want to maybe try to stuff them both into something like this. i will also do that to the bridge pickup so everything looks a little more uniform and not like 5 different makes of pickups

as far as switches go, i placed my order today for 10 spdt, 4 dpdt, 2 3dpt, and 3 4dpt. i think im covered!

Idea now is to get it running as HSH. Then once the sustainer is done I'll put it in the neck position either with a plastic single coil cover to fill the extra space or just cover the whole cavity with one of those humbucker cover things that look like EMGs.

routed the single coil out today

thanks! i will definitely get back to work on that bobbin, i think i have some resin stuff that i can use to seal off that bottom bit so the plastic doesnt move.

im a tad confused, you mentioned covering the pole pieces. should i just use some thin electrical tape?

the general setup of this guitar is going to be insane, i prepared my switch order today and i think it was 10 spdt, 4 dpdt, 2 3pdt, and 2 4dpt toggles. and i got it all under $20! i love having connections. obviously not all of those switches will be used in this, but a good many will!

Also, ive kinda been doodling out some ideas for a completely self contained system that would require no more space in a guitar than completely replacing the neck humbucker, and adding a space for a 9v in the control cavity. i think i may be onto something here..

the guitar

here it is covered with tape, so i can mark my ideas for pots and switches and such

here is the construction of my bobbin

just a regular single coil bobbin, a plastic spacer thing made (horribly) from hobby styrene then hot glued.

..now that i think about it, lets NOT tell my old model car building buddies how bad i butchered that spacer thing

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will start a thread, lemme finish drawing up my schematic in MS paint..

well i found some wire from a company im ordering from anyways, its only 30 gauge though. would my project be doomed if i use this anyways?

Clicky click click

im ordering from them anyways for some other projects, it'd be great to go ahead and include this to save a little on shipping.

ill make me a thread then. just gotta get my notebook back out and scan the ideas/circuits and such.

since i already have this thread going.. whats the best bobbin to be using? is it something i can get online?

Being in australia, and not knowing where you are. What you are looking for is "enameled" insulated wire, sometimes called "magnet wire"...

Someone else may be able to give you a pointer as to a supplier online perhaps. You don't need a huge roll of the stuff, but you should get enough to make a few till you get it right.

Also, be very careful with the gauge thing, "american standard gauge" is different from others and things can get confused. That's why I talk in terms of 0.2mm for my designs typically...so an actual measurable size, rather than a confusing "standard". Is 30 gauge 0.2mm, I really can't say...it may not be say in asia where the wire was made, or europe where it was distributed from...you see the problem?

Also, if attempting this, be sure that you really understand the necessary steps and important components. Things like potting in glue and measuring the coil resistance and such are crucial. The potting seems to be where so many come unstuck for some reason. Also, the bobbins and core materials and such, if varying from known working designs, best to start a thread with all your project ideas outlined plus pictures of progress before you do things.

And...I always advise and generally even do with known working designs and circuits...test everything. SO, test that the circuit works as a decent amp without problems with a speaker...test the system holding the driver over the strings away from all pickups...test and test again...

Do all this before getting to far ahead with things like installation or planning switches and such. Again, time and time again people get too far ahead of themselves with these things.

Quite a few people have successfully completed this project without problems, but so many seem to report errors that are clearly not those of the design or the guitar. It is not so hard a project, but it draws on many skills...circuit making, guitar wiring, troubleshooting, bobbin construction, material selection...and a bit of practice and so failings in things like winding drivers.

There are no "short cuts" either in much of this...not potting a coil will doom it for instance, having a circuit that is noisy or faulty or unstable will never work, thinking you can get by without a buffer, or substituting or adding parts in the hope that things will work is hardly likely to succeed.

Also note that there are many versions of these things...be sure that you have compatible ideas and are up to date. The F/R circuit was proposed many years ago, has shown some validity for the application, is not ideal however and many mods to stabilize it and improve it have been posted.

Otherwise, good luck...see the tutorials on winding drivers and the sustainer project generally and make sure that you are up to speed on all this before you start out...it can be a very tricky thing for some...so beware, but good luck

thanks, no worries though. ive been reading over some of the threads on and off for about 3 weeks now. Ive built and modified a few dozen pedals (about half being kits and mods, the other half being builds from schems)

i know this is not really just another phaser or overdrive pedal, but i think i have enough free time, ability, and ingenuity to fumble my way to a working setup.

thanks!

Look for magnet wire. There should be several suppliers online. You may have to buy more of it than you would use for a single driver, but that's okay, you can just make more.

ah! im so dumb!

so like this wire? clicky click

and dont worry, i plan to be making more than one!

hello, i was looking through the how-to thread for the sustainer driver and it said to go with the 30 gauge wire. i went to radioshack today and they didnt have any wire like that.

I've been looking around online and everything i can find is either stranded wire in a sleeving, too big, or is "artistic wire". id imagine the non-corrosive artistic wire would be no good for me?

any help is appreciated.

Anyone?

hello again, since my last thread/idea flopped, ill try another!

If i was looking at making some sort of pickup that would cancel a string's vibrations like in a moog guitar. how would i do this? i understand how a sustainer causes the string to vibrate, but how would i make it NOT vibrate.

if someone could give me a general idea of how to do it, i could probably make the actual circuit.

any help is appreciated.

oh yeah, as far as experience:

-been building pedals about a year now

-very comfortable doing any and all routing id need

-can read through just about any clear schem for guitars/pedals you could toss at me

hopefully im good enough

hey everyone!

i hate not posting a big elaborate question when im completely dumbfounded like i am now, but really theres not much i know to ask.

is there any good, new, Midi system (pickup and whatever ill need to go between the guitar and my computer) under $300 for everything? im looking at fixing up the jackson i have, and it looks like the cheapest midi system is graphtech's ghost (which is a tad too pricy).

any help is appreciated!