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soldering is so0o easy, honestly just have a go on some scrap wires and metal
like get a bit of metal then drill some holes thru it to make it seem as if it was fork that youd be soldering some wires to onto the pots, just keep having goes at it until you can make the solder job look clean and try and used as little as possible but use enough solder to make the bond strong enough to hold.
good luck with the electronics - these ideas that everyone is dishing out sound awesome
Thanks for the advice Zoso, I think i'll spend a little time over the weekend doing as you suggested, its not only the soldering thats a worry to me it's the actual circuit and drawing a diagram, I really don't know how to approach this.
However, I do have Hiscocks book and that has a section on the electrics, I'll read through that and see if I can work it out, if I do a diagram and post it here could some of you chaps look over it and see if it's correct?
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Drak
I love your choice of woods for the tele's, but i've not so far seen guitars of a different body shape, out of curiosity what other guitar-types have you built, or are you a strict tele guy?
This is a genuine question by the way, not a dig at all, just interested to see what other gems you've given birth too.
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Thats cool man. I was just curious as I don't know much about that wood, again I like the look of it and sounds dry enough, some say as low as 6% is about right but I often see 6-10% for instrument wood, and by the time you cut and sand it to shape it will probably dry a bit more, not that it needs it really. Well good luck man and update us as you go. Jason
Will do my good man, i'm hoping to cut the body shape tomorrow, the neck is already part-way completed (did a few in a batch). Over the weekend i'll be making a router table to trim up the neck taper to the fingerboard and i'm going to construct myka's excellent neck-pocket jig, this way I can complete the neck join for both this and my explorer build.
Looks like i'm going to have a productive weekend!
I've also received some nice ash which is going to be used to build a voodo LP with a difference!
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Are those just knots or worm holes in your wood? Also is it dried properly? I was just curious, I like the look of that wood, it just seems a bit knotty for a guitar, I haven't seem much of that kind of wood so I don't know much about it, that might be just how it always is or it might be perfectly fine as is, I'm knot sure. I hope it works out well for you and keep us updated. Good luck. Jason
The wood has knots and various 'undesirable' artifacts, but thats what I like about it, the wood is dried (10%) at last count from the supplier. I know it's dog-rough but I love working with wood thats as natural as possible, it may sound awful, but i'll never know until I build with it ;-)
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http://www.islproducts.com/prod/pots/ThinMicroSeries.htm
http://www.islproducts.com/prod/pots/SlimSeries_a.htm
You could do some really cool edge-mounted controls with either of those.
wow, you guy's are loving the electical part of this project! Your fogetting 1 important factor, I barely know how to use a soldering iron let alone wire up all these exotic components, I do however love those thinline thumb-wheel type pots, not sure how I would mount them though.
I also like the idea of the external box - however would this still make the pickup 'too' bright by hardwiring it to the jack plug?
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this is sounding like one crazy guitar - im digging the idea of a dano lipstik pickup they are just pimp....
the idea of the side mounted pots is cool and all but having to use a screwdriver would suck i mean make it more accessable........make it something you can do with your fingers while not ripping nails off either.... lol
in the pic of ure bandsaw look on the top shelf - is that plane sitting flush with the wood, i heard thats not so good for the blade
keep the pics coming - even if they are of you're tools
Zoso - don't worry, the plane has the blade-retracted. It's actually a very old Record jack that is in the process of renovation, it's not actually being used at the moment, but hopefully in a couple of weeks when I get chance i'll get the renovations finished and will be able to start using it.
I was thinking about the lipstik pickups, but I really want something more beefy. As for the side mounted pots, the reason these will only be done with a screwdriver is because I will very very rarely need to change them, I hardly every change the volume or tone pots when i'm playing. BUT i am currently thinking about using wooden-plugs that stand a little proud that will allow turning with a thumb.
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Ok, here's a pic of the finished headstock:
I'll be using 4 tuners at the top and 2 at the bottom.
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They're called trimpots. Its exactly what I was going to recommend. However I think your last idea would provide much more flexibility, as you would have to crack the guitar open to change the value with the trimpots.
I'm definitly going to go for the side-mounted pot idea, it allows me to keep the clean lines and have the flexibility if needed.
Btw, here's some pics:
Bad Maple Stock -Cracks and gouges, and being only 49mm means i can't use it for this project:
This is the stock i'll be using instead: (English Yew 31mm Thick)
I've also updated the photoset with shots of my cutting the central mahogany strip, jointing the edges and gluing together to create the body blank.
More work will be done early next week when I have finalised the drawing for the body-shape.Updated Photoset
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Time for a quick update.
I was so annoyed about screwing up the scarf joint that I decided to cut it down to the body and build a new neck. I scrored three long pieces of mahogany that yielded enough wood for four necks, so when I received it I ripped it to size on the bandsaw and jointed the edges, glued together using titebond - 24 hours later I have 4 neck blanks, i'll be creating these necks all at the same time so i'll have them ready for my next projects.
Here's the progress of the neck for the explorer:
All I need to do is trim the excess flush to the fingerboard and shape the back for the neck, since this photograph I have sized the headstock and made it flat like a strat headstock with a curve upto the nut, i'll add a photo of that soon, i'm really pleased how it has come out. I have updated the photo-set:
Updates + New Descriptions/Comments
I will be doing more over the weekend, i'm building a Myka style neck-pocket jig and the templates for the pickup routes, if I get time i'll do the routing and also shape the neck profile.
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Picture of the bandsaw, for those who are interested:
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Good question, I was just about to post some updates. first of all though, thanks for the ideas on the electric side of things chaps, I like the idea of mouting the pots out the side/back of the guitar I can then cover the hole up with a wooden-cap and remove it if and when I need to make an adjustment - good idea!
Ok, my update, things will be a little slow with this as i'm still building my explorer, and building a new workshop aswell as trying to change carears, so its hard finding the time at the moment, but anyways:
I received the canadian maple today ready for re-sawing on my new bandsaw (pics coming soon) for those who are interested, I went for the 14" Jet (JWBS-14) instead of the scheppach. Anyway, the chap giving me the wood said it was 53mm and planned, when I received it there was some pretty serious cracks and some major warping, and it only measured 48mm thick, so it's going to be too-thin after re-sawing and the crack is going to be hard to get around. So its going to be cut-up for maple tops on other projects.
So, after being a bit bummed out, I checked on my wood-stock which is alarmingly growing exponentially to my needs (damn wood-lust and ebay!). I have some 30mm English Yew and a mahogany off-cut, so i'm going to create a laminte body with the mahogany running down the middle with the Yew either side. After planning and sanding it should be about 28mm or so which should be perfect.
I'm going to be gluing up the yew tonight and will finalise the drawing of the shape over the weekend ready for work during the week, the neck is almost ready as i'm building 4 at the same-time as I had to make a new neck for the explorer build.
End of update (sorry for rambling).
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The problem with that Is LACK OF TIME!! trust me the fretboard will work out deadly!
!!METAL MATT!!
Although i'm not really a fan of the guitar shape, I have to say after following this thread from day 1 i'm really impressed on the build, and I think its just great to see two guy's from this forum collaborating - I hope you'll be entering this for GOTM.
I think it would be great to see some more collaborations!
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Is there an electical trick I can do to warm the sound without using pots? I know very very little about electrics, something I must read up on. Any suggestion is most welcome
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The Ear of the bridge route looks like it has been filled because I had to add wood to the ears to fill in the gap that the router left. I'm not too experienced with routers. I think overall for my very first project I Didn't
do too bad of a job. When I mounted all the hardware, the piss poor routing job is covered very effectively. As it has been said many times in this forum, If I expected everthing to be perfect on my first build, I would be setting myself up for complete failure. For any of you that had "perfect" first builds with minimun experience congratulations, but lets not forget everyone has to start somewhere. If this guitar sounds half as good as I am expecting I won't be worried about taking out the pickups to show the lousy routing job I did.
Gary, the routing is a little rough, but the main thing is that you've built it all the way through to completion, i'm still about half-way through mine and have made a few major mistakes, but I guess it's better to do them now and then vow to learn from your mistakes on the second one.
However, i'm sure with a little chisel work you could neaten them up a bit.
Good work though, lovely looking wood, i've recently purchased some black walnut and on seeing your guitar i'm looking forward to working with it!
BB
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Is the top spalted maple? I was a little unclear from you initial post - really nice wood, where did you get it?
I'm finding it very difficult to get scary looking wood!
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I would say it's an acceptable finish.
Then I woke up and realised it was one of the most amazing looking git-rrs i've ever seen! (want to sell it??)
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But I'd think for a Metal rythm you'd want a big fat mahogany billy-badass guitar, not some thin maple... thing. It would be more suited to more punchy genres, regardless of pup choice.
It depends, i've played a maple tele with upgraded hot humbuckers and that produce a really nice clear rythm tone, I'm thinking thrash metal (old metallica, slayer, etc..) rather than LP style rythm (GnR, Aerosmith etc).
But, I shall build it and see, if it's really not suitable i'll convert it for use as a more pop/indie guitar..
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hmm, have you been persauded to keep it afterall, or were you always going to keep it?
Hmmmm, newcomer, eh?
Aye, I am a newcomer and know very little of the 'WOD' and your habits.
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You guys DO know I didn't really WOD that body, don't you?
I'm just going to sand the veneer off and do something else with it, why, IT'S A PERFECTLY GOOD BODY!!!!!
hmm, have you been persauded to keep it afterall, or were you always going to keep it?
(this doesn't nessacarily mean you need to cancel the naked virgins!)
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Hmm, not what a wimpy looking wafer-caster being doing playing metal? You're better off going the funky Dano --Reverend route...
Just because it will be thin doesn't mean it will be wimpy! :-)
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I have to say that i've very rarely used a vol pot, i've always had a volume pedal within my effects setup and have prefered that, and I quite like the idea of having a very clean looking guitar. I was even considering cutting the fretboard down to the 15th fret as I hardly ever play anything higher than that, but I think it would look a bit silly.
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hell yea!
Hey I got an idea. Keep the WOD guitars and get poeple to smash them on-stage in a show!! Would at least give them a better ending
Or save them for bonfire night and create a pire and get some naked virgins to dance round it - a tribute to the guitar gods.
Btw, if your american you might not know what bonfire night is, here in the UK we celebrate it as the day that we foiled Guy Fawkes from blowing up the houses of parliment. The bonfire represents his execution (hung, drawn, quatered, and then burnt - just to make sure!)
End of history lesson. :-)
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One day the steerheads WILL be inlayed instead of cutout, or a combination of both...
...when I learn how to inlay...
It would be cool to inlay the steerhead with real steer horns/antlers - these crop up on ebay quite often.
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Introducing The: Wafer-caster
in In Progress and Finished Work
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Cheers chunkielad, i'll probably sit down on the weekend and draw up a diagram - i'm going through the hiscock book and trying to work it all out!