townshend

ok i tried the thing with the screw driver and it has just seem to make it worse now more screws are lose somebody please help me! i have had an almost unplayable guitar for more than a year now!

No need for silicone, nail varnish or replacement parts.

Simply get a screwdriver, and press firmly down on the retainer wire between each screw. This will bend the wire so that it looks like a this:

|ovovovovovo|

I instead of this:

|o-o-o-o-o-o|

The vertical lines represent the ends of the bridge, the 'o's are the screws. The other characters represent the retainer wire. The 'v' shape is exagerated, but gives you the idea - you want a zig-zag shape, with the wire bending downwards between each screw. This will create enough down force on the screws to prevent rattling.

Please excuse the ASCII art, the bridge won't really get longer after you fix the problem

BTW, 'The guitar player repair guide' by Dan Erlwewine, p.71.

hmmm i have tried that but i cant seem to put enough pressure on it.... but ill give it another shot

OK so the problem was fix, but i has just came back in one of the strings, would replacing the part fix the problem? thnx all

ummmm how do i get the saddle of?

That wire comes out of the holes that it is pushed into. Just pull it out and the saddles will just fall out. Oh, and i should add, make sure the guitar is properly intonated before putting anything on the saddle to keep it from rattling.

thnx every body! i have taken this guitar to three dif music stores and nobody could help! i used silcone and it seems to have worked! but i acidently got the wrong guage strings

anyway thnx u guys, if i ever have anymore probs i know were im comin first from now on!

If it were the saddles you would just need to file the slot so it slants away from the edge like the left picture.

By what you describe i think you're probably right and its the saddle, make sure its seated into the bridge. On the tune-O-matic I have here, the saddles need to be pressed pretty hard to get them to sit down in the slot. After that a little dab of clear RTV silicone should do the trick to just keep it from vibtrating. I would put one dab under where the screw head rests on the bridge and another where the wire is hitting the saddle. Like I said eariler tho just a little dab the size of the head of a pin so no one will see it.

Unless anyone else reading this has a better idea.

thnx so much for all ur help, im off to go get some silicone now

ummmm how do i get the saddle of? and should the wire actually touch the saddle screws? coz i noticed the ones that rattle the wire does not touch? n if so how do i bend the wire to touch the screw

I'm very doubtfull that the noise is coming from the saddle rattling, theres a lot of downward force from the strings to hold them in place and that wire is effectively a spring so im doubtfull with that as well.

This is most likely the problem, the one on the left is a proper saddle, the one on the right has a saddle that the slot is improperly angled, the string vibrates inside the saddle slot because there is nothing supporting it up to the edge.

uh k i understand u now, but i belive its just the screw that vibrates agains the wire... if i get some one to put there finger on the screw it stops.... but if it is what u say how can i fix it?

edit:if i touch the screw under the g string i can move it were as i cant with the others

here is a pic, im pretty sure the circled screw is vibrating against the wire.......im really sorry but i didnt exactly understand what u said it could be is there a special type of silicone u recomend? thnx for all ur help

uuullllll id be scared to use that! n what say i need to adjust the intnation(sp)? would replacin the slidey thing and screw help?

sorry for my bad spelling im kinda in a hurry

hey all i have a prob with my epi casino two of the screws on the saddle (slidy things) vibrate against the wire thingy on the bridge does anyone no how i can fix it? thnx all