slaytanic

No reissue here. Its a real 1970 USA Gibson SG. Pics will come as soon as I get it.

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

I am aquiring a Vintage 70 Gibson SG. It has a few scuff marks on it, no deep scratches. I would like to keep everything as original as possible.

What Im wanting to do is give it that high gloss finish it once had. I dont know if the clear was poly or nitro on the old Gibsons. Does anyone here have an idea on what they used?

I read through the tutorial a bit on polishing and since I dont know which was used I am unsure on whether I should skip using the course grit and go right into fine and then extra fine (swirl remover).

I have never done this before so another question...Is there a difference in the outcome whether I wet sand with paper by hand or rubbing compound with the foam pad and drill? I want it to look the best it possible can.

Also, Would it be recommended to spray more clear on after sanding?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Guys,

Jeez Loueeze, enough already.

There has got to be a better way to do this.

Please, see my post on helping new members.

http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...t=0#entry255706

Give me some other ideas from an established members point of view.

Be Cool,

d ward

thanks wardd, I guess some of us "newbies" need something like that....guidance.

To the others,

I see that there is a ton of information on this site, and wading through it can be frustrating, especially if you cant find what your looking for, or did find it but the info was a hair different from what your doing. I saw that ther are plenty of worthless post talking bout the same info that had little or no info it, just the same questions. I am really wanting to build guitars, and was told this was the place to go for that info. I think your topic wardd and a couple posters in that topic put everything into perspective of what the newbies and experienced builders need to factor in about this place. Tons of information to wade though, with frustration by the experienced builders who are asked repeated questions that have been answered time and time again. Im just saying myself, its alot of info to take in and found it easier to ask the questions I needed answered reather than to look for hours on end reading through every thread to hopefully find the "jem".

My initial post was for this reason alone. I came across the wrong way by saying tha I was too lazy to search through every thread, I can admit that. I really did do some searching and reading, but didnt find everything I was looking for. I asked all my questions in one post without saying that I really did do a search (maybe that was the problem) and immediatley IMO got attacked. I dont want to ruffle any more feathers. I dont expect anyone to do any searches for me. I came hear for some fast answers so I can get my project off the idle line. As for the mentality comment, that was not meant to be generalized. When you see someone with a "status" that is representative to the site, I got the impression that this is the way the site is being run. So to say that it is representive to all of them, well thats just what it is, an interpretation that was suggested by one imparticular. If thats not the way it is then cool. Im not looking to stir anything up, I can admit that I was wrong by the way I came across to begin with. No hard feeling toward anyone. I hope everything is cool now. Lets just get back to what everyone like to do, building guitars.

thanks man, must have missed that part

ok that was a wrong choice of words. Like I said, I have looked and havent found all of what I was looking for.

What I meant by my post was in the questions I asked was for some personal experience directly related to the questions I asked. I never said anyone had to look anything up.

By the way, a couple nice guys have helped me out on a few things and thanks to them I can go forward. All the rest of the information I found.

Please no more flames.

Is this safe to do? Im looking to remove a fretboard from a neck and apply it to another neck. is this possible or am I just wasting my time. If not, is there a safe way to do it without damaging the board, I could care less about the neck its coming off of.

...if noone wants to help out fine, by the way thanks for the hospitality...

Well, aren't you a piece of work! Rude, huh? How about assuming that your time is more important than that of others, so they should do the work finding the information that you need? Besides, I simply can't believe that you spent any real time searching, since a simple look at the section entitled Inlays and Finishing Tutorials & Reference would have immediately revealed LGM's pinned tutorials that would have answered at least most of your questions - go read them now, and in future, think before you start flapping your cake hole. You're probably not going to like this, but keep in mind, DIY does stand for Do It Yourself. If you have specific questions, no problem, but if you expect anybody to rehash a general overview of everything that's been posted on finishing around here, you're sadly mistaken! There's a very low tolerance for tantrums on this board.

Tantrum, what the hell are you talking about? I guess the lack of being able to see emotions in just words can make you judge me like you did. I didnt mean to ruffle any feathers here. I thought the questions I asked were pretty specific. I cant see how I can make them come across more clearer. Just to justify. I did read through some of the tutorials, but not all. There were things that maybe I just didnt see like I stated before. Hence the whole reason I made my first post. You dont believe me? Not my problem. I could care less if you believe me or not. The pathetic thing is, I see all kinds of people here asking questions that have probably been asked before and I dont see one flame towards them. What your deal man? Is this how you treat all the new guys? And rude, yes I think you are and for someone that is a moderator of a forum I would expect you would be respectful for the sake of this site. The attitude you have shown me has me questioning the mentality of the people running this site. the flapping the cakehole thing almost had me laughing. Thats a good one. Go ahead and keep flaming me if thats what makes you feel good about yourself. I guess thats what guys like you do behind thier computer when its not face to face huh?

Here's a link to a veneer tutorial on the PG site in case you missed it.

http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/veneer.htm

Yea I read that one a while ago, I like the step by step of that one, really goes into detail.

Thanks man.

You have several things working against you.

The choice of wood (veneer) you have selected is a poor choice to do the kind of 'look' you want to achieve.

Redwood is VERY VERY porous, which means that once you apply any dye or stain, it's gonna soak it in like a sponge, and I -do- mean like a sponge.

Any Redwood should pretty much be done natural, so if you're going Redwood, stay with clear finishes.

BTW, it will soak in finish like a sponge too.

To go the other route, to do a dyed finish, choose another type of wood much more suitable for what you want to do.

Long story short, you can't get to where you want to go with the material you have, without a ton of hassle anyway.

On top of the fact that I don't know if you know how to apply veneer properly, which is like grabbing a cat by it's tail to begin with.

Sounds like an uphill battle to me, I would choose some different alternatives to give yourself some more guarantee of success and satisfaction for your efforts.

Hope that helps.

Thanks man, I didnt realize that redwood was so sensitive, I guess thats why I have only seen natural finishes on guitars covered with that stuff. Ill keep that in mind. I read the tutorial on applying veneer so hopefully I wont screw it up. Thanks again.

I'm also new to the board and not a great expert, but I have put transparent varnish on a few guitars.

My feeling has been to first do something to bring out the grain of the wood, tung oil, shellac etc. then get a good sealed and smooth base coat built up.

Then start adding the colored layers, first with only a small amount of tint then making each new coat a little darker as they build up.

I guess the best advice would be to first practice with test pieces until you get the result you want.

As far as products, I use Stewart McDonald Color-Tone stain which you can add to the varnish.

They are StewMac.com, I've called them on several occasions and gotten good advice, just ask for a tech person when you call. Plus, they are trying to sell you stuff so the politics are easier to deal with.

Good luck,

d ward

Thanks for the help bro. What would you recomend for a good base coat? Im assuming Stew mac sells all the products I need?

Is that redwood? It looks really great!

yea its redwood, really nice lloking stuff. Just debating on how Im gonna make it stand out when I go to paint it.

Thanks again for the nice welcome guys, I am from Nevada, work at an underground mine, play guitar for a hobby, and am testing the water with refinishing an old geet. Im kind of new at it, so I will probably need all the help I can get, I was referred here from the Dean forum, good guys over there.

You work in an underground mine? Good god. I think I would soil my pants. :-) How is that?

Its actually not that bad, I guess its more of an adrenaline seeking type job, its always there. That and I have more access to high explosives than most men in the miltary, well, at least I dont have to have the presidents permission to use them.

and yes, a Slayer fan I am.

Rude? Ha. Dude, they were being rather gracious. First you say your are too lazy to help yourself, then you add insult to injury? You STILL want help, don't you?

maybe you didnt see the part in my last post where I said I did do a search and didnt find all the answers I was looking for.

thanks for the rude replies. I did try the search enginge and maybe it just didnt tell me all of what I was looking for ,or maybe I just didnt see it. thanks anyway. IMO its easier for someone to just tell me a couple names of products and leave it at that. whatever though, not that big a deal, if noone wants to help out fine, by the way thanks for the hospitality.

Im sure this has been asked a million times but Im too lazy to search through every thread trying to find it.

Anyway, I have some redwood veneer that I want to give a grey or black transparent finish or possibly a maroonish transparent, I have never done this before. I know theres a way to not screw it up, which is what I dont want to do. I want to try and avoid the trial and error thing if you know what I mean.

So, is there a certain type/brand of dye or stain that is recommended? Is there alot of sanding involved to make the grain stand out? Since it is veneer, should I be sanding on it at all? Should I wipe on stain/dye or spray it? Do I need to use some kind of sealer? Can someone give me some steps on how I go about doing this? Dont really know much about what kinds of clear coat to use either. So if anyone can recommend any types of stain/dye and clear coats it would be much appreciated.

I guess it really depends on how thick the clear coat is, Mine was about 1/16 of an inch thick, yea the flap sanders a good idea too, never thought of those, even so, I didnt see any around when I was picking stuff up at the store. Ill keep that in mind.

Thanks again for the nice welcome guys, I am from Nevada, work at an underground mine, play guitar for a hobby, and am testing the water with refinishing an old geet. Im kind of new at it, so I will probably need all the help I can get, I was referred here from the Dean forum, good guys over there.

I found that while sanding down my guitar, the hardest part was the inside of the horns. What I did is cut out a bunch of pieces of sandpaper in circles about the size of a 50 cent piece and attached them to the end of my Dremel tool. The sandpaper is really flexable, so it works great.

Con: you have to have ALOT of circles cut out ( I used about 20 of em on my guitar), one slip and it tears the sandpaper.

You have to be extra carful of youll make grooves.

What I llike about it is it takes only about 2 hours total including sandpaper changes to do both horns. I used 100 grit and it came out smooth as butter. Touched it up by hand with 60 grit, then finished it with 220. Seems good to me.

well, when I was sanding I went into the veneer top. So I had to take it off. Looks like ash. Not sure the actual wood the guitar itself is made of. I really cant start a new body right now as my local lumber yard doesnt have any good woods to choose from. Mostly Pine and Oak. But yea I want to fill the cavity and put a piece of redwood veneer over the top to cover it up. It used to have a pickguard on it and it got warped. I really just wasnt to stray away from that again, besides having no pickguard is more atractive to me. I like to see more wood than plastic. Anyway heres what the body looks like now completely sanded and a pic of the veneer Im going to put over it. Tell me what you think about this idea.

Thanks fr the welcome skibum, heres my project taht Im hoping I will someday conquer.

http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...=0entry254912

Ok so I have a guitar body, Washburn, and it had a pick gaurd on it, and since it was my first guitar from way back, I have since played solid bodies and want to refinsh this one by filling in the cavity with a chunk of wood and routing it for dual humbuckers, routing the knobs throught the back as opposed to the front like they were, then slapping a piece of veneer over the top and giving it some paint. This is also my first attempt at doing this, so Im bound to have problems along the way. I have successfully sanded the entire body with a finishing sander, that took a while. now IM ready to cut out a piece of mohogany to place inside the cavity, then sand flush with the rest of the guitar.

Now since Im at this step, my question is. Is there a easy way to do this, without screwing up the body? It seems pretty simple other than getting it perfectly flat like the body which I know will take endless hours of sanding. I want to have mohogany in the cavity to give it a brighter sound. Thinking about routing out the body more to allow for a bigger pice to fit in the entire body. Is there a certain type of glue I should use, or would regular wood glue work? IS this something common that people do, by filling in these cavities. I know its alot of work, but Im not really worried about that, I am just having fun with it. Any advice on how to not screw this up would be much appreciated. Thanks. Heres a pic of the raw guitar body so you see what Im doing.

This had a veneer top on it, I have since removed it and sanded completely down to just raw wood. I dont have a recent picture on me of other than this one. My camera cord when capoot.

Hey guys Mitch here, new to the forum. Been playing guitar for about 10+ years, just now trying to refinish a guitar and thought this was the place to go for some questions.