gumbo6580

Stock tuners on a CS Les Paul should last for 30-40 years with no problems. I agree with Setch--take the guitar to a good tech and get the nut checked out. If it's older than an '05 model, you might look into getting the guitar plek'd and a nice bone nut made for it. Gibson started factory pleks with the '05 CS models and it's a worthy upgrade.

If you really do want to change the tuners out, check out the Les Paul Forum and see what people there have done. I know people have had good luck with Grovers, but a binding nut is still going to knock you outta tune no matter how many other parts you throw at the guitar.

Thanks for all the advice, I will re-investiagte the nut first and let you know the outcome!

Care to clarify Wes? Waverly's are open backed tuners, more normally used on acoustic steel strings. They'd do the job, but are fiendishly expensive, and not really a close cosmetic match. Good tuners for sure, but not really suited to this instance.

IMO, if you really want to upgrade your tuners you could look at Grover or Gotoh tuners - both make quality products, and both make a very close match tp the existing tuners.

However, it is vanishingly unlikely that your tuning problems are due to the tuners - tuners don't slip unless they are catastrophically worn, and then you know about it! The likely problem is your nut, which should be the first thing to check for anyone with a guitar which won't hold tune. Strings bind in their slots during tuing or bending, and then slip later, sending the guitar out of tune.

I am pretty sure it is the tuners as it stays in tune when tuned to Eb (strung with 10s at the moment) but it won't hold in E! However, i think I will check the nut again (this was my first port of call) just to make sure......

Hi all, can anyone suggest what would be good upgrade for the machineheads in my CS Les Paul? It currently has gibson deluxe machineheads on it but they do not hold their tune.....! Damn thing..... I am not yet sure if I want to chage the look of it with lockers so any thoughts on vintage styles would be most appreciated. Thanks.