moojiefulagin Posted May 23, 2004 Report Share Posted May 23, 2004 Hi! 2 questions- Is it possible to stain after grain filler treatment? Also, Did I completely waste my time sanding to 400 grit before applying the filler, since it has to be sanded off? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_ed Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hi Moojie, The answers are: 1) Maybe. You will have to find out. Some grain fillers will and some won't take a stain after applying. Try on scrap wood first. 2) No. You did not waste your time. Guitar Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moojiefulagin Posted May 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 But what's the benefit of sanding to 400 if you follow it with 120 to remove excess grain filler? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morben Guitars Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Sanding to 400 removes scratches from previous grits. If you just roughsand the body, the grain filler will actually fill sanding scratches along with the grain. Then you'll need to sand the wood back to get rid of those - and most likely remove enough grain filler to necesitate another coat... Wood prep is by far the most important step in acheiving a good finish. If it was easy, everyone would have foot-deep finishes... I'd also submitt that 120 is a bit too rough for the next step...the grit can actually reach in and pull out the filler. Apply the filler, let is dry for a bit, then remove with an old credit card. 220 should be plenty to remove the remaining filler from the surface..then 400 - and be sure to use a cork block or something flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moojiefulagin Posted May 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Thats what I was wondering. I didn't think of the filler filling the sanding scratches! Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moojiefulagin Posted May 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I dont understand the credit card method. do you angle the card in the direction that you move it (more of a compacting feel) or a way from the direction you move it (a scrapng feel). Also, wouldn't this leave scratches that would be too deep for 220 grit? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morben Guitars Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I scrape across the grain, not with it. It does not scratch at all. Infact you'll need to do very little sanding as you can scrape the filler off to leave a very smooth surface. I've tried the plastic scraper that stewmac sells (with the rubber wiper) and it doesn't work nearly as well as an old Credit Card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moojiefulagin Posted May 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 OK Ill give it a try. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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