Boggs

This is just a short clean clip of the 6 positions I have on the rotary switch. Pickups are GFS NeoVin Fat Vintage Noise Cancelling pickup set. Intonation has yet to be set as my tuner is at church. I just set it to a guestimate pre-set... Still playing with pickup spacing. The bridge pickup was much higher in output by itself, so I normalized the track for near equal levels. It was plugged into my V-Amp2 set on "tube preamp custom clean" with gain at about 9:00, flat setting, a bit of reverb. Pickups you hear are in the following order: Bridge only; Bridge + Middle; Middle only; Middle + Neck; Neck only; Neck + Bridge. Strings are DR Strings Tite-fit 10-46.

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/boggs.com/Cam..._Sound_Clip.mp3

Boggs

Sorry I can't help, man... Pointy geetars are not my strong suit...

Here it is... I need a better camera to better show the mineral streaks in it...

I was sent the wrong tuning machines, otherwise it would be done. When they come in and I can string and set it up, it'll show itself again in the GOTM forum...

I had to go for Davee5's koa semi-hollow... It makes me glad I didn't have anything to enter this month! Spectacular doesn't cover it... I should be in next month's though...

Kelela and Dalmation wood. Kingwood fingerboard on maple neck. Just showing 3 different pickup covers... No finish or relief cuts yet. This will be sculpted. I hope to have it ready for the May 3rd Guitar Show in Batavia, NY...

Gee, I sure am glad you are not actually trying to harsh my mellow...

"No...that wasn't the point I was making...it has p-90-alikes on it that could just as much account for the different tone. I had a processed sound and what sounded like room echo. I was just commenting from a sales position, that these are comparisons and what they may hear without variation is what the guitar lacks in comparison, not it's features.

It was really a response to this claim...

There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before!

...which is a risky sales pitch if it doesn't deliver!"

Keeping in mind that this was only one setting and one pickup being used for this quick sample and not the full-blown demo coming, I heard things on the lower strings that were very unique in that he had a right-hand technique that almost made it sound like he infused slap-bass into it. I hadn't really heard that from another guitar before. A good part of it was his playing technique, but it helped very significantly that the guitar could bring that out. It is apparently VERY responsive. I have a goncalo alves topped and backed Cicada that responds like that to the right hand. Very special...

"The ergonomics are almost entirely in the light weight which is admirable, it's lack of countouring and thickness of the body undermine some of this. These features have been offered before in the market place such as in Fenders Robben Ford model (designed to sound like a smaller 335) and many others, this is what fender tried..."

You can't really say this without having played it. The body is smaller than other guitars that really require the contouring. It was smaller than Dave had imagined and as he put it (although not in the video you saw), there wasn't a place on it where his hands didn't feel like they belonged. It was very comfortable playing either sitting or standing. Classical seating position as many jazz players like is perfect in how the guitar bottom rests between the legs and the neck is at the right position even when the hands are taken off of it when using a right-angle cable... The body is not as thick as a Strat or a LP so contouring is not really required. It also is not a featherweight. It still feels substantial (and balances perfectly) despite the generous chambering because of the density of the old growth woods used.

"A more convincing demo video and explanation is this from which you have largely drawn inspiration I'd suggest (and which I don't hear a lot of reference to)..."

This was a short concept piece he did for me. He has all of the information now he needs to do the full-up demo showing the various features, use different pickup combinations, different amp settings, etc. This was just a sample. All will be presented in the full demo.

"Here's some specs...link...retailing at $719. The rear cutout on yours looks a lot like a reversal of the carvin and the internals less "designed" perhaps by comparison, this model of yours looks better than previous designs on the concept but with a stock fender neck, you are only inviting comparison with fender. Carvin's headstock is a custom design and a 20" radius board."

This guitar (which really is the engineering model as it is a brand new model from me" will remind you of the Holdsworth Fatboy as that was its inspiration, but it is entirely different in construction. Doing the cutaway in the opposite direction has MANY advantages as you will see when the other full demo is completed. It was done for multiple functions that the Fatboy cannot do quite as well. I love the Fatboy, by the way... It was completed in its current state with the standard Strat headstock the day before I had to ship it to Hipshot to take to NAMM so I did not have time to re-shape it to my current configuration which I developed (and pictured in another thread) from this. It will be done when I get it back. I still haven't even played it yet as it has been on the road ever since. You can also get my guitars with whatever neck configuration you want. I have done custom headstock designs for customers, too. You cannot get that from Carvin (who I respect a GREAT deal). I can even take the neck off the guitar you see and replace it with what you want. You are not locked in. I am getting away from the stock Fender headstocks though. I just didn't have time to do it on this due to delivery date requirements. I understand what you are saying though. I also do appreciate the time you took to give me so much good feedback! Thanks, Pete! Cheers!

Boggs

Good comments all. I also recommended a lighter shirt for showing the guitar body shape better. The features will be demonstrated in the final product. This is just a concept sample he sent.

It was noted that it doesn't really look or sound like a Strat or a Les Paul. There are already bazillions of guitars that do. Why should I make another? I like that it has its own character. That is what I was shooting for. I see posts all the time from players that feel those are uncomfortable to play... I designed this ergonomically to be comfortable to play sitting, standing, or kneeling... The player has been notified as to how to demo this... Strats and Les Pauls are great instruments. They aren't the ONLY instruments though...

When I tried to click the angelfire site it wouldn't even come up for me, but my computer tends to automatically block sites that have problems like wes was sayin'.

As far as the demo, it sounded fine and everything, but I was kinda hopin' to hear of some of the features of the guitar and why it's so good.

That is coming. This is the basic concept (and the first time I have heard the guitar through an amp)...

I finally found a youtube link although I am sure the audio is a bit degraded...

Seriously... and I am not belittling your complaint, but yours is the only complaint I have had...

Thank you for locking up my computer with your angelfire crap...you can never have enough viruses

I have the higher end paid services which are SUPPOSED to be free of popups and the like. I have not had any complaints for years before yours...

Just thought I'd pass on that I am one step closer to having a really good promotional video from a friend of mine in Delaware. He has my Cocobolo topped CamelBack CB-II for evaluation and he offered to do a demo video for me to help me out. Dave Duncan is his name. He's an incredible "feel" player. There sre sounds on this video that I have just never heard from a 6-string guitar before! He wanted to show me an idea for text graphics so he recorded this and sent it to me... We are aware of the low light and the monitor reflection in the finish and there will be a lot more info provided. This is conceptual, but the tone is KILLER! This is the guitar I built that was sent out to demo for Hipshot at NAMM... :-) Cheers!!

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/boggs.com/Cam...-II_Video_1.mp4

Greg "Boggs" Bogoshian

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This is in response to questions on other forums based on my "I cut my nuts" thread where I noted cutting my guitars' nuts to .009 clearance between the strings and the first fret... They wanted info on the rest of the setup. The first two I checked were .009 clearance at the first fret open and .046 at the 14th fret open. Relief (capoed at 1st and 17th fret) was .005 on one guitar and .006 on the other I checked at the 9th fret. I only looked at the B and E strings 'cause I was tired and wanted to go to bed... I'll check the others later. Cheers!

Here is how it would look on a CB-II... The neck pocket and bottom still have jig extensions on them... It's just pressed into place... This also does not have the new configuration where the neck is 3/4" further back and the horns shortened slightly...

You think these do?

Re-shaped Strat to get away from their headstocks but retain a bit of familiarity for traditionalists... Thoughts?

Yes, and by your words your intention is to remind the viewer of the Strat headstock. I hope you understand that I'm not trying to be mean or spiteful here.

I understand... The big difference in mine is in the point of the flares from the nut are far more rounded on mine giving a much more flowing line. It also slims the headstock quite significantly. There is only so much real estate in a 6-inline headstock and I feel I distinguished it from the rest pretty nicely while giving the hint of the classic...

You think these do?

Re-shaped Strat to get away from their headstocks but retain a bit of familiarity for traditionalists... Thoughts?

This is a pretty cool looking project! Looking forward to seeing progress!

It will probably be a urethane on the Kelela... I could do something different for the dalmation, but of course it would have to be compatible with the finish I use for the main body...

I forgot to mention that this construction would allow for more traditional belly and relief cuts...

I have a Mantis that I made using kelela and padauk and used mini-PAFs in it. It had a lot of the tone of a Les Paul or it could also do a nice ES-335 even with that small body. This will have Fat Strat noisless singles in it... Should be really interesting!

I think it comes from Ecuador or that general area but I can't find any pics of the tree... I have seen pics of little branches and leaves and I think it is a legume... I'd like to learn more about it. It is quite hard though. It is only 1/4" thick so it is just for "dressing" on this one. The kelela is extremely light. I suspect this guitar will come in as a solid body between 6 and 7 lbs total. That goncalo alves is in the rosewood family and is extremely hard and dense. The dalmation is not quite that hard or dense but I would say it is more like kingwood...

Thanks for the comments!

It will be used in my next CB-II build... a light weight solid body made from Kelela with top mounted pickup plate, and wing caps which will hold the controls made from beautifully marbled Dalmation Wood. There will be no back routs or covers and the dalmation will be essentially be the 3-piece pickguard. The pickup plate will be fitted mostly into the body for a nearly flat profile to allow for easy strumming but the wing caps will be surface mounted for dimension... The neck will be birdseye maple with a Kingwood fingerboard. Here are a few shots of the kelela body and the dalmation wood billet... Cheers!

That's the intent. I need to get some wax to seal where I cut first though so it doesn't check...

No one specific thing. I can make a full body from a solid section, resaw that for a top and back as well, make another couple of bodies resawing and bookmatching and a several more tops and backs as well... I have to lay things out to see what would be the most efficient and which models I could make body cores from this.

I do... Picked this Cuban Mahogany up from my supplier the day after Christmas... It's a full 8/4 thick. This is as unfinished a project (multiple) as it gets unless it has roots still attached and in the ground!

The guitar is done and can be seen in the Announcements and Test Area forum...