Hotrock

as for nader, well, i would love to vote for him, but a vote for nader feels like a vote for bush in this case, 'cause it's taking votes away from his competitor.

Ahhh, the major problem with elections.

They had a vote on the radio over here (Radio 2) a few days ago.

There was about 12% for Nader (which isn't bad because when the news talks about the upcomming US election, they hardly give him a mention), 16% for Bush and the rest for Kerry.

Personally, i don't agree with the following quote (because I ALWAYS vote - don't vote can't moan mentality) but I still find it funny:

"Don't vote, it'll only encourage them" - Billy Connolly (I think)

How does your voting system work then, "one man one vote" whoever gets the most votes wins or is it like our rather dodgy way of doing it, whoever wins the most states (constiunecies in our case) wins?

Bread and dripping for ya tea tonight then

The closest place I can think of for supplies is Craft Supplies over near Buxton (Derbyshire) but ask your technology teacher/lab techs first as they might be able to order it (they sorted me with some lovely quilted maple vaneer, well about 8 years ago)

Lab techs are the ultimate resource for someone at either school or unit, they love building stuff and take a real interest. They have also been doing it for years and know the best way to go about things, generally they don't mind showing you either.

Go in to see them with the offer of teabags and chocolate biscuits towards their tea fund, they'll appreciate it.

Oh and for cheap parts, go to exchange & mart or the pawn shop and try to pick up a knackered guitar with the hardware that you need. You can always upgrde later

Good luck

Wow, that's cool dude and looks like some awesome workmanship

Hope it's getting a Floyd Rose trem

Very nice indeed, please post some finished pics (and finish it before the electrics )

How had is it making the cavities? the neck cavities etc, because i want the guitar to be quite solid

If you've got a template and a router then it's not very hard. I haven't done a neck pocket though and sometimes they have to be angled by a few degrees. Makes it a bit harder but not impossible so I'm led to believe.

can anyone tell me a site with any CAD templates apart from this one

www.guitarbuild.com have it in both dwg and dxf format (AutoCAD basically), you can also download the software.

And, could i use a CAD/CAM machine to do the routing for me?

You could do, but have you got one Personally I think that's cheating

Since you're in the UK, try www.axesrus.co.uk for cheap parts and craft supplies in Buxton for good cheap wood. Where abouts are you?

Kaj

That kind of depends on where you live. Theres a place in the middle of England near my house and I believe that there is one or two places in the USA and even some in Australia, Canada, Malaysia etc etc

But I'd start with the suppliers section from the main PG home page

Give us a country and we'll see if we can help

Cheers guys, but where do the different numbers come from?

WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT? (and why do I keep hitting the Caps Lock ?)

Howdy dudeies

I've just been to have a look at the fret scale calculator that's in the Unique Reference section of the main PG page. My only problem is that the fret calculator has three different scalors:

12th root 2

17.817

17.835

I'm guessing that the 12th root 2 is probably the best scalor to use, but I'm not sure. Unfortunately I let someone borrow the book that had all the measurements in it.

Can someone help as I want to get the fret board slotted over the next few days.

Cheers guys

Kaj

Reading this thread is a bit worrying because I've built a maple:zebrano:maple neck. It's not attatched to the guitar yet but I've built it. The only problem I've had with it is the end grain just goes shiney when I was trying to sand it, the stuffs like granite

It keeps getting moved around my house and I live in England so obviously the conditions it's kept in keep changing - humidity, temperature, cat sitting on it, etc and I haven't had any problems.

BUT - If the experts say don't use it then go with them, I'm an egit.

I will say that I got the wood out of the neck laminates section of the woodstore so.......... hmmm

Build your own man. Scots are supposed to be brave

I've been doing my axes in dribs and drabs because I'm skint and got no tools. If you take it slow then you should be alright on the tool front. Hell, mines taken a year so far and now I'm having to wait until bonus time to get myself a drum sander.

Alternatively, the pawn shop would be a good place (not as good as the porn shop obviously) just like Curtis said. Try Craft Supplies in Buxton, they have unfinished necks or I'm sure you can come to a deal with someone else on the forum, someone more experienced than me.

Hell no, I don't like responsability

And I'm not good enough to build one for someone else, sorry dude

To further illustrate... I found a cheap $40.00 12" Polk sub online that requires 1.8 ft^2 in a sealed enclosure. I also found a higher quality $170.00 12" alpine sub that requires 0.8 ft^2 in a sealed enclosure. If you had to lay down your money, what would you bet on to be louder and have better bass response? The one with "less volume" behind it or the cheapy?

Just to stir up a bit more trouble:

Hey Gnome, surely an engineer would know that volume is CUBIC feet and not SQUARE feet.

And while I'm at it, engineers should use SI units, not imperial.

Not being rude this is just a light hearted ribbing

Bet it's cold up there!

For the frets, I'm using a Japanese Microsaw from Touchstone Tonewoods (£18) and the 5 meters of fret wire (£9 - should get a few necks from that), Then I'm going to be using a pair of pliers and some hard graft with a grit stone.

I'm building my own mitre board to get the fret slots straight, hope it works

No, I am actually crap

That's not unique - loads of people are crap

Well I'm crap anyway, but it ceratinly doesn't help

Build one.

I'm doing my first guitar and I've built the neck. I really didn't find it as hard as I thought it was going to be. I think the laminates cost me about £15 from craft supplies in Buxton.

Whats the worst that could happen? You could balls it up and have to sped anothr £15 on laminates. You've just got to make sure that you have the right tools, I used:

Clamps to glue the laminates (stolen from my old man)

A very dodgy handsaw for the scarf joint (given to me by my old man as it's useless)

A half round file for shaping (about £3 from Homabase)

Loads of sandpaper (Don't get this from Homebase it's expensive)

A sanding block made out of an old block plane

A small sanding block made from scrap wood

Truss rod from Touchstone Tonewoods (£8)

Router for russ rod channel (swiped of a friend)

Workmate (again swiped from the same friend)

I didn't have to do the tennon though, as mine is a sort of neck through.

Have you looked at Craft Supplies as I think they have cheep necks with a blank headstock to shape?

Where abouts in the UK are you?

My PC with PG in the favorites.

Without this I probably wouldn't have even started.

But my favorite tool has to be a BIG hammer, just not much use in guitar building

Looks like Craig Lavin has competition

Very nice indeed, I'm impressed (especially as I can't get my trapezoid inlays symmetrical)

Happy Birthday Feh (& 12b345b67 although I can't remember seeing you around)

No longer a teenager, but it gets a lot better now (well until you get as old as www )

Have a good day and I hope someone buys you tools (which is what I asked for)

I'll have a beer to celabrate tonight for you

Kaj

I'll swap one night with my missus for the bass

Whats the shipping to UK deal?

I know that there was a thread some time ago about this over at www.18watt.com

I really can't remember to any degree of accuracy what the conclusion was though, but there certainly was one. I think it might have been to do with projection of the sound but I can't be sure.

I can't even remember if there is a search funcion over there sorry dude.

Kaj

www.18watt.com

Ansil

Anodizing is not an option on steel, you cannot anodize steel. Alodining is a steel process but it will not do much for you here. It is a hardening process but won't help you to add color or much corrosion resistance.

Good call, well made. Don't know what I was thinking. Read steel, thought aluminium

There is somewhere that does a sort of electrostatic coating that makes everything all soft and a bit fluffy. Can't remember what it's called but you could have a blue, midly fluffy trem

I'll see if I can track it down.

Oh yeah, you can vary the thickness of the coating when galvanising, I think you vary the current and the time that it's being dipped for. I Agree that it's a bit butt ugly though (just look at the barriers at the side of the road).

.... for the "Little Gem" (when he was planning to build it into a guitar).

I was looking at the polished-turd-ocaster last night wondering what I was going to do with it. The finish has got to come off as it's just not funky enough.

This sounds like a wicked idea. Could I mount two little speakers in the guitar top and drive them using this amp? Any suggestions on type of speakers?

Nice one dudes

im thinking in heat de metal until it is red then trouht it to a pot of used oil and repeat some times,

I wouldn't do this as a matter of principle. It makes the steel more brittle (turns it martensitic if I'm being a smart arse about it). It probably wont make a difference for a trem, but it does for other things.

Personally I'd try to get it galvanized (or anodized for that matter). If it's galvanised and you get a scratch on it, it wont rust in the scratch (which is useful for iron).

Anyway, thats a wicked project dude. How long do you think it's taken so far? Looks like a good 30+ hours. Hope the guitar turns out as good as the trem.

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If one of those was mine, I'd have to pull everything off of it and put it on the back. I like the backs, they're awesome. What sort of wood is it?