jaguarcat311 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 im about to put a new set of tuners on a guitar i have, but i dont want it to look like one of those gibsons at guitar center. whats the best way to get all the tuners lined up properly? the tuners came with an edge guide, which doesnt really work for a gibson style headstock........ since it isnt flat on either side like a fender style headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 What are you talking about? Which guitar? Is this a guitar that already has tuners or is it a guitar you're building? Does this guitar have 3 on both side tuners (like those Gibsons in Guitar Center) or does it have six on one side (like dem dar Fenders)? Are you talking about converting the guitar? What tuners did you buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Is it a 3x3 headstock? Do you want the tuners to follow the contour of the headstock like this or be level & plumb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarcat311 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 (edited) Hey, it is 3x3, i was hoping for a slight contour, it is a gibson style headstock. there were tuners before, but they didnt work so well. the tuners i have to put on are sperzel locking tuners. they just have a post that bites into a hole that you drill, no screw. unfortunately, it is on the opposite side of the tuner hole as the screw hole. Edited August 17, 2005 by jaguarcat311 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Ah okay, that's different. Welcome to the world of non-retrofit tuners. You can drill new holes for the sperzels, sure. Personally, I'd just use a gimlet since the holes won't be too deep. But then, I'm partial to gimlets. Your choice as to whether you fill the old screw holes. You can also go look for tuners that will retrofit without new drilling. Have you looked at Stewmac? They have spec sheets for their tuners that will give you an idea of what will fit. Here's the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarcat311 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 i already have these tuners and thats what im going to use. im putting this guitar together for a friend and these are the tuners he chose. he's going with the nickel color scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksound Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Here's what I do with tuners that have locating pins. Right or wrong, it works for me. Put the tuner in the hole. Thread the nut onto the shaft, but do not tighten it yet. Line it up where you want it. Repeat x 5. Carefully tighten the nuts so the pins make an indentation in the back of the headstock. Remove the tuners. Then take a drill bit slightly larger than the diameter of the pin and wrap a piece of masking tape around it to mark the depth of the hole you want to drill. Drill the holes for the pins. The slightly larger drill bit gives me a little wiggle room to adjust the alignment of the tuners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3Va1L Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 that's what sperzel recommends to do... check on the website, or on their packages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarcat311 Posted August 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 actually on their package it gives you an edge guide and tells you to use that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 actually on their package it gives you an edge guide and tells you to use that ← So what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarcat311 Posted August 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 actually on their package it gives you an edge guide and tells you to use that ← So what's the problem? ← ..........i believe i said the edge guide only works on fender style headstocks, 6 inline, since this is a curved headstock, 3+3, it doesnt work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 If you are having problems situating the exact hole positioning its best to make a full sized drawing of your headstock. Draw the hole positions with precision. Experiment with whatever style looks best to you, eg. following the curves or straight. Then cut out the headstock "template" and tape it onto the actual headstock. Centerpunch your hole positions (be VERY precise) through the paper into the headstock. Drill holes with a drill press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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