TenderSurrender Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Ok, so ive learnt the arpeggios "Solo" from Altitudes by jason becker and can play it at id say about 60/75% speed of the orignal however i notice when i begin to get it faster then that, i cant get the notes to ring out clear Ive done the usual slow it right down (its how i managed to get ma head around it AT ALL lol) but i cant get the speed up Ive put it down to my picking technique. Ive read through the excersises pinned at the top and they have helped but not a lot, i was wondering if there was any DIRECT tips for THIS song in paticualler that someone can suggest? Thanks in advance guys!! ~~ TS ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted January 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 *Bounce* Im using an acoustic patch on my GP7Rack mutli fx processor to practice hearing all the notes cleanly but im still not able to get it up to speed... Any suggestions guys? ~~ TS ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Cmon guys surley one of you must know some pointers on how to improve my technique for this song!! Heres the tab incase you havent seen it... Solo Em |----6----| |----6----| |----6-----| |----6-----| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-12p7-------7-12p7-------7-12p7---------------------7-| |------8---8--------8---8--------8-----------------8---| |--------9------------9------------9-------------9-----| |------------------------------------9---------9-------| |--------------------------------------10-7h10---------| |------------------------------------------------------| A |-----6-----| |-----6-----| |-----6-----| |-----6-----| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-12p9---------9-12p9---------9-14p9---------9-12p9---------9--| |------10---10--------10---10--------10---10--------10---10----| |---------9--------------9--------------9--------------9-------| |--------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------| Bm |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-14p10----------10-14p10----------10-14p10----------10-14p10----------10-| |-------12----12----------12----12----------12----12----------12----12----| |----------11----------------11----------------11----------------11-------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| Bm |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-19p14----------------------------14-19p14----------------------------14--| |-------15----------------------15----------15----------------------15-----| |----------16----------------16----------------16----------------16--------| |-------------16----------16----------------------16----------16-----------| |----------------17-14h17----------------------------17-14h17--------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| D |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-17p14----------14-17p14----------14-19p14----------14-17p14----------14-| |-------15----15----------15----15----------15----15----------15----15----| |----------14----------------14----------------14----------------14-------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| F# |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-18p14----------14-18p14----------14-21p14----------14-18p14----------14--| |-------14----14----------14----14----------14----14----------14----14-----| |----------15----------------15----------------15----------------15--------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| Bm |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-19p14----------------------------14-19p14----------------------------14-| |-------15----------------------15----------15----------------------15----| |----------16----------------16----------------16----------------16-------| |-------------16----------16----------------------16----------16----------| |----------------17-14h17----------------------------17-14h17-------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| Bm |------6-------| |------6-------| |--3--| |--3--| |--3--| |--3--| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-19p14-------------------------10-14-14p10----15p10----14p10----13p10-----| |-------15-------------------12-------------12-------12-------12-------12--| |----------16-------------11-----------------------------------------------| |-------------16p12----12--------------------------------------------------| |-------------------14-----------------------------------------------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| G |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-15p10----------10-15p10----------------------------10-15p10----------10-| |-------12----12----------12----------------------12----------12----12----| |----------12----------------12----------------12----------------12-------| |-------------------------------12----------12----------------------------| |----------------------------------14-10h14-------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| A |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-17p12----------12-17p12----------12-17p12--------------------------------| |-------14----14----------14----14----------14-----------------------------| |----------14----------------14----------------14----------------14--------| |-------------------------------------------------14p11----11h14----14p11--| |-------------------------------------------------------12-----------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| F# |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |-------------------------------------------------------14-18p14----------| |----------------------------------14-19p14----------14----------14-------| |-------------------------------15----------15----15----------------15----| |----------16----------------16----------------16----------------------16-| |----13h16----16p13----13h16----------------------------------------------| |-14----------------14----------------------------------------------------| D A |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| |------6-------| S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S S |----------------17-22p17--------------------------------------------------| |-------------19----------19-----------------------------------------------| |----------19----------------19----------------19-------------14-18p14-----| |-12h16s19----------------------19p16----16h19----19p16----14----------14--| |-------------------------------------17----------------16-----------------| |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| Someone please help lol!! Im desperatly trying to get this perfect, but need some help!! ~~ TS ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorecki Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Cmon guys surley one of you must know some pointers on how to improve my technique for this song!! Heres the tab incase you havent seen it... Solo Snipped... Someone please help lol!! Im desperatly trying to get this perfect, but need some help!! ~~ TS ~~ Tender I'm guessing the reason for no answers is because there is no answer other than the most obvious! You just have to keep at it! It looks like very straight forward arpeggios and it's not uncommon for people to struggle with arpeggios. Only way anyone can help you is to watch you and see if there's anything you are doing that could be limiting your flow. Sweeping basics. 1. RELAX, tension never helps the flow 2. MEMORIZE IT, if you can't do it ENTIRELY FLUIDLY from memory, you won't be able to play it up to speed. 3. DO IT SLOWLY, there is no gain from trying to play it too quickly, don't go any more quickly than you can...until you can. 4. Use a metronome, it may help, step it up in tempo...slowly! A few beats at a time. Edited January 31, 2006 by Gorecki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenderSurrender Posted January 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Thankyou very much Gorecki, your answer is what i kinda expected yet, perhaps didnt realise 1. RELAX, tension never helps the flow 2. MEMORIZE IT, if you can't do it ENTIRELY FLUIDLY from memory, you won't be able to play it up to speed. 3. DO IT SLOWLY, there is no gain from trying to play it too quickly, don't go any more quickly than you can...until you can. 4. Use a metronome, it may help, step it up in tempo...slowly! A few beats at a time. 1) I did notice tension in my hands, ive relaxed a little and its already helping 2) Ive played it so many times trying to get it faster that ive DEFINITLY memorized it 3) I guess ive just gotta keep at it, and slowly itll get faster 4) I am playing along to a met' usually do, i find it also helps me phrase passages better So thanks once again Gorecki ~~ TS ~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorecki Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thankyou very much Gorecki, your answer is what i kinda expected yet, perhaps didnt realise No problem. A couple other points. Breaking the piece down into slices you can work on speeding up and than gluing them togather *may* help. Sometimes we all run into walls in playing that seem will not move no matter how hard we try...that's when to know to walk away for a while. You may discover/realize some things for what ever reasons simply don't click as we would like them to but you may also discover the efforts in working on the thing that didn't click, created other clicks/benefits in your playing unexpectedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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