MzI Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) I just bought a piece of Cocobolo on ebay for a fretboard mainly cuz it looks cool. Anyways, I pulled the board out to look at it and since my index finger on my right hand has had a slight burning feeling. Obviously a reaction to the wood. Although nowhere else am I having this reaction. For my question, will the likeliness of a reaction go away when I have the fretboard on a guitar, ie will it still be toxic if I dont finish the wood or if I put some lemon oil on the fretboard as I generally do for all of my guitars. If not is there a way other then a hard finish to remove the likelyhood of having a reaction other then just not using the piece at all. MzI Edited February 22, 2006 by MzI Quote
Mattia Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 Some people are sensitive to the wood dust (well, OK, quite a number of people; like Pau Ferro, it's a now irritant/allergen/sensitiser), but very, very, very few people have problems with completely dust-free, polished up wood that I've heard of. Even the folks that can't work with Coco or Pau Ferro can play cocobolo/pau ferro fingerboards without trouble. If you're one of the unlucky few that can't even deal with skin contact on a dust-free board, you're best off going for a different wood. If it's still in raw form, work it with gloves, full body dust protection, respirator (duh), and take a small piece, finish it up 'to spec' as you would a fingerboard (with all the safety precautions), and then handle it a bit, see if it does anything. Carry it around. A hard finish, for a Cocobolo fingerboard, will look and feel very wrong, and many oils won't harden properly on a wood that oily. Best thing to do is a short 'test run' to see whether you react to it badly. I don't know if I do, yet, but I can handle large boards of the stuff in the rough, no problems. Quote
unclej Posted February 21, 2006 Report Posted February 21, 2006 if you're not in a huge hurry i'd try two things. leave the board alone for a couple of days and then pick it up again and rub your hands all over it. if the burning returns or any of your fingers actually fall off then you do indeed have a reaction to it. next, if the board you bought is longer than you need for a neck cut off an inch or so and put a coat or two of whatever you have decided to use on it. let it set for a day or so and try again. if it still bothers you i'd be willing to take it off of your hands. Quote
ryanb Posted February 22, 2006 Report Posted February 22, 2006 First you should make sure that your reaction really was from picking up the cocobolo, since that is a pretty minor exposure . However, if that really is the problem, you are very sensitive to the cocobolo and you should immediately forget any idea of using it. You don't want to cut or sand it, or you could have a very severe reaction. Even with a respirator, the exposure to your skin could be a big problem. Putting something like lemon oil on the finished board won't solve the problem. While it might be possible to seal the board up with something like lacquer, it would be a pretty unusual finish. Bottom line is that it just isn't worth risking your health for a fretboard. There are plenty of other choices out there that won't have the same consequences for you. Check out the pinned topic on wood toxicity. Quote
MzI Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Its weird because all I did was pick up the board with one hand and I only got the burning sensesation on one finger and not anywhere else. I did check the toxic wood list to see the different things about cocobolo. Also I have never had a reaction to any wood and ive only ever had one alergeic reaction and that was to getting stung by bees. Anyways Ive picked up the wood mulitple times since and it seems to be ok with no problems additionally there is no dust to speak of on the piece so maybe it was just my mind making up the reaction, its not totally out of question. When I actually do use the piece ill be sure to take proper provisions against getting the dust all over myself. Ill post pictures when I get back to my main computer. MzI Edited February 22, 2006 by MzI Quote
ryanb Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 If you were really reacting to the wood, it seems unlikely that only one finger, and not your whole hand, would be affected. Quote
scottyd Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) Nice board! stuffs pretty oily too, polishes out great.... Edited February 23, 2006 by scottyd Quote
MzI Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Posted February 23, 2006 yea thats what I am thinking but it could be a localized reaction same as what happened when I had an allergic reaction to being stung. MzI Quote
fryovanni Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Wow, That is odd that you would have a reaction with such minor exposure. If you are really that sensitive to cocobolo. Don't even think just chuck it. Seriously... If you get a reaction like that by touching it lightly. Can you imagine your reaction if it gets in your sinuses, lungs, eyes. I have never heard of that level of sensitivity, but..... Peace,Rich Quote
MzI Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Posted February 23, 2006 Its weird because my other hand was competely fine and my other fingers on my right hand were fine. I will be taking extra precaution when I actually start working with the wood. For now its sitting in the box it was shipped in until I have a chance to bring it home. MzI Quote
Duff Beer Man Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 We found Mzl's kryptionite lol, now anytime we want something out of him we pin him down and touch cocobloa to that one finger . Yeah man seems very wieird to me... do you have any scratches or cuts or anything exposed at all anywhere on that finger? Quote
MzI Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Posted February 24, 2006 haha thats about the only thing that can bring me down ill admit it. Well that and a good nights sleep. Nah I dont have any exposed cuts or anything unless theres something I dont know about. MzI Quote
Devon Headen Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 Doesn't sound like it was the cocobola to me. I'd say just handle it quite a bit and see what happens. Having such a localized reaction when you handled it with both your hands suggests something else caused whatever reaction you had. My $.02. Quote
drpossehl Posted February 24, 2006 Report Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) I used cocobola alot in hand made knife construction till I couldn't work it anymore. The oil in it seems to cause the reaction. It just takes a minute amount. Maby the wood was "sweating" alittle oil . I tried finishing it with polyurethane and it never realy dried. It turned to a waxy stuff that you could scrape right off with your finger. The stuff is dangerous to sand but once its sealed, (buffing works, (gets a glassed look), I can handle it just fine. Edited February 24, 2006 by drpossehl Quote
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