GoodWood Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Just wondering for planning purposes, how long the average dread takes to build. I know the first few will be slow, but whats your average hours? Ive heard 200 hrs being knocked around alot. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzocchi705 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 It will tke as long as it takes, there are LOADS of variables involed (general wood working skill, ability to learn new techniques, material used ect ect) My advice here would be to NOT work out n overage time per build, you my find that you will make that a time constraint. take your time and you will make a great instrument. Rushing leads to disaster, and i know all to well about that. And last but not least, pot pics! Its great to see an avoustic being build and you have my respect for trying to build one. Im sticiking with solid bodys for the mean while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 +1. I think I have about 180 hours in my first guitar, maybe 150 in the second (which still needs binding, finishing, setup, bridge carved, etc.) to date. I'm not a very fast builder, and these are 'simple' instruments, no inlay beyond a simple logo at 12th fret kind of thing, but they do have binding all around. However...one of the guitars was built over a three month period. The second has been 'almost done' for over a year and a half now, due to Life getting in the way of Lutherie (finished a few other projects in the interim, mind you...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Man, That is not something that is the same for most builders. I can tell you it takes me quite a while to build anything. Mainly because I get little bits of time here and there. The better you have your methods and tools/jigs worked out can make a huge difference. As Mattia mentioned complex details can easily double or more your time required to build. If you are really trying to accelerate the process and you have all your ducks in a row. HHG cuts glue times. You can use finishes with rapid cure times if you are equipped. If you want to cut build time make accurate jigs(nothing else will cut construction as well as accurate jigs). If you have never built an acoustic. Spend the time to make awsome molds, jigs, side benders, sanding dishes etc.... It will make your work faster and more accurate. The biggest mistake I think we all make is not taking time to do these things. After you have made them tasks become quite efficient. Good luck, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) If you have to make the molds, templates and jigs from scratch, it will take as much time as working on the instrument itself. So the 2nd one will take half as long as the first. And add 1000 hours if you do epoxy grain fill and sand by hand. Edited January 28, 2007 by erikbojerik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodWood Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 If you have to make the molds, templates and jigs from scratch, it will take as much time as working on the instrument itself. So the 2nd one will take half as long as the first. And add 1000 hours if you do epoxy grain fill and sand by hand. Yea, Im not counting those, or finishing, as its about 3 hours work, with 3 weeks dry time etc....I will also be doing 2 at once more or less, to a point, so 2 tops get rosettes, 2 necks to glue up, plane cut wood, etc. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 If you have to make the molds, templates and jigs from scratch, it will take as much time as working on the instrument itself. So the 2nd one will take half as long as the first. And add 1000 hours if you do epoxy grain fill and sand by hand. Yea, Im not counting those, or finishing, as its about 3 hours work, with 3 weeks dry time etc....I will also be doing 2 at once more or less, to a point, so 2 tops get rosettes, 2 necks to glue up, plane cut wood, etc. Thx Two is not a good idea on your first run at using new jigs, and techniques(IMO). If you have never build an acoustic you are really moving blindly forward in terms of brace shaping, thickness of top/back sides, bridge shape/weight, and so on. You would do well to stick with one at a time until you have your tools and methods dialed in, and you have a feel for the materials you are using. Of course everyone has their own idea of how to move forward learning these things. Just be sure you take careful note of weights, thicknesses and so forth. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodWood Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 If you have to make the molds, templates and jigs from scratch, it will take as much time as working on the instrument itself. So the 2nd one will take half as long as the first. And add 1000 hours if you do epoxy grain fill and sand by hand. Yea, Im not counting those, or finishing, as its about 3 hours work, with 3 weeks dry time etc....I will also be doing 2 at once more or less, to a point, so 2 tops get rosettes, 2 necks to glue up, plane cut wood, etc. Thx Two is not a good idea on your first run at using new jigs, and techniques(IMO). If you have never build an acoustic you are really moving blindly forward in terms of brace shaping, thickness of top/back sides, bridge shape/weight, and so on. You would do well to stick with one at a time until you have your tools and methods dialed in, and you have a feel for the materials you are using. Of course everyone has their own idea of how to move forward learning these things. Just be sure you take careful note of weights, thicknesses and so forth. Peace,Rich Yea, it might be good to see how the first top comes out on a set, as they are the same wood. Hey, What about 1/42 Veneer wood for rosettes? Ive seen some nice cheap stuff on ebay, do you have to glue up 2 or 3 to do this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Do one first, all the way through, see how it goes. Otherwise you risk making the same mistakes twice in a row, since you can't 'go back' and do one of them differently. I was lucky, because my first came out fine, and I'm pretty much set on using almost the same techniques, etc., but note I said almost; there are always places to improve the workflow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryovanni Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hey, What about 1/42 Veneer wood for rosettes? Ive seen some nice cheap stuff on ebay, do you have to glue up 2 or 3 to do this? Thanks How accurate are you? If you can inlay it and sand it level without sanding through it would work. Also it will be pretty delicate when you cut it to shape. Normally I make my rosettes .035-.045"(1/42" veneer is like .025"). You can go as thin as you can work with. Peace,Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodWood Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hey, What about 1/42 Veneer wood for rosettes? Ive seen some nice cheap stuff on ebay, do you have to glue up 2 or 3 to do this? Thanks How accurate are you? If you can inlay it and sand it level without sanding through it would work. Also it will be pretty delicate when you cut it to shape. Normally I make my rosettes .035-.045"(1/42" veneer is like .025"). You can go as thin as you can work with. Peace,Rich Cool, - Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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