Kenny Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 well, i have a concept guitar drawn and i want to stain the redwood top black like This dean guitar the problem is i want to use a mahagony/walnut/redwood lamination for the wings and a maple/bubinga/maple/bubinga/maple lamination for the thru neck the problem im thinking i will encounter is how do these woods stain? i want an over all black guitar but with the grain to still show through. sorry if this is unclear, i can post pictures of the blanks if this would help ( i dont have the redwood top yet) Quote
low end fuzz Posted January 13, 2008 Report Posted January 13, 2008 well, i have a concept guitar drawn and i want to stain the redwood top black like This dean guitar the problem is i want to use a mahagony/walnut/redwood lamination for the wings and a maple/bubinga/maple/bubinga/maple lamination for the thru neck the problem im thinking i will encounter is how do these woods stain? i want an over all black guitar but with the grain to still show through. sorry if this is unclear, i can post pictures of the blanks if this would help ( i dont have the redwood top yet) for the effect you want i dont think stain or dye for that matter is the method to use; for one, never use 'black' stain, it just never really works (or dye for that matter) for this i would say trans black shading laquer, especially with rewood , its so unporportinally dense, someone whos good at finishing could prolly shed a better light on this tho; Quote
Maiden69 Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 for the effect you want i dont think stain or dye for that matter is the method to use; for one, never use 'black' stain, it just never really works (or dye for that matter) for this i would say trans black shading laquer, especially with rewood , its so unporportinally dense, someone whos good at finishing could prolly shed a better light on this tho; Now ... how many stain jobs have you done in black that DIDN'T work? Because every single time I do a black sand back it looks exactly like that picture! If you are using red wood, you could bleach the wood if you want a black and grayish color tones, if you are going for a very dark black wou should have no problem staining it. Quote
low end fuzz Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 for the effect you want i dont think stain or dye for that matter is the method to use; for one, never use 'black' stain, it just never really works (or dye for that matter) for this i would say trans black shading laquer, especially with rewood , its so unporportinally dense, someone whos good at finishing could prolly shed a better light on this tho; Now ... how many stain jobs have you done in black that DIDN'T work? Because every single time I do a black sand back it looks exactly like that picture! If you are using red wood, you could bleach the wood if you want a black and grayish color tones, if you are going for a very dark black wou should have no problem staining it. to be PERFECTLY honest, ive never had a 'stain' go well for me at all; ive tried evry way of applying too; but my personal experience with analines are for sanding back i always get screwed with black, it just dosent sand back well, its always mulling around in spots on the wood that look bad; the darkest i sand back with now is brown; but looking at his pic it looked more like a colour over the wood to me as opose to the wood being coloured; i was looking forward to someone else describing a method too; grant Quote
Kenny Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Posted January 25, 2008 Maiden i asked Dean Z about the procedure and he said to stain, sand back then reduce the stain a lot and spray to get the black overtones how would i bleach the wood? Quote
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