Wammi

you want a 5521 locknut. NOT an "after the nut" stringlock like a 5513 or 5514. One is a nut and one is not. The 5521 is a Kahler equivalent locknut and is now being remade and due out in a few months. www.wammiusa.com By the way, I have your exact guitar. same everything, same color ect. mine had these emg specials. are they in yours too? I have put a 7330 Kahler fixed bridge over that hole. a little fill around the front corner route , touched up black and it looks great? Don't you just love the flat fast neck? Wammi J

So this is the guitar for the Kahler 8 string eh? SWEEEET. I will follow along with interest and if you like...post the pics on the wammi site, if you dont mind? good job man Wammi

We all keep talkin string sizes and what fits. ITS NOT THE STRING SIZE THAT MATTERS. Its the doubled over windings at the ball that needs to go between the string hook slot. This is what you need to measure, and ALL strings are diff. Its impossible to know what strings would work. There are so many sizes and brands these days. I use GHS Boomers and I never have a problem. Right now I am using SIT's in my 6 string heavy. 7 string set minus the .24 ...NO Problem. string hook slots are .60 wide on the first 6 strings and .90 for the 7 and 8th., so the doubled over string at the winding must be less. Simple. Just don't push the envelope. Wammi

yes you can rake no prob. its fun! Wammi J

Wes, Nothing we make is cheap. believe me NUTHING! It may get a defect here and there but i really don't hear many complaints. Everyone seems to like them. Flawless? No such animal. Even the Pro line can have a flaw. After all its a hand machined piece. If there are any defects they will be worked out. This happened in the 80's too, in the beginning. If you remember the Kahler was THEE bridge of the 80's decade. Floyd was but a speck then. I bet a lot of you did not know that Kahler made Floyds for Floyd and not just the Kahler Floyds either, but the Pro Floyds too. What is a one piece nut? Where does it say that? The 2300 is available through Kahler USA. It is $329.00. Its not hard to find. just type in Kahler in google and were on top. Now I also would like to address something important here. I have read some of these posts and I can tell that alot of your members here are really unfamiliar with a Kahler trem and how it is properly mounted and set up. I hear of saddle intonation screws touching strings. I hear rumors and gossip and things that are sparked by misinformation and simple guessing. I am here to help quell this. I will post all the important aspects of a Kahler cam setup for you all to adhere too. Please dont slam me here. I am trying to help, not disagree ok? First and foremost....You all seem to have this idea that the saddles should be low...so low in fact that the intonation screws are touching the string. This is not setup properly. You have a major loss of sustain and the string can and will fall off during a deep dive bomb. The saddles should be at 10:30 o'clock. With this in mind recess the trem accordingly. That is very important. Secondly, about string sizes. We really don't see a problem with the string hooks breaking....yet. This has started recently from the heavier guage strings that are popular now. The string hook is only so big - (.60) and is quite strong but i believe it is breaking these days more often because the cardinal string rule for Kahlers is not adhered to. Rule #1 bend the string windings at a soft 45 degree bend to eleviate ball spin in the hook. When it re-seats wrong and get pulled....SNAP. And # 2.....dont use big strings beyond whats recommended (10-46). I see a new trend coming. The crossover guitar/ bass. The trend is to make a guitar that goes deep like a bass. To have more strings, farther range...ect. I have already fielded a question asking if a bass string would work on a 8 string! But these trems (the 2300 and the 7300) are made for the 80's era mainly, and work perfectly for those not willing to stretch its limits beyond a 6 string and normal guage strings . This is becoming apparent now I have used kahlers for 24 years and NEVER broke a string hook yet. And I have a guitar with 54's. go figure. I hope this helps abit. I am happy to talk to any of you personally if you need some guidence. I will be happy to call you on my dime, just email me your request and phone# to wammi@wammiusa.com Wammi

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i think you misunderstand me...the arm drags on the black one i have as if the threads are binding.the chrome one i have does not do this...but that is very minor. the base...it is slightly warped.it makes a difference because i need them to sit flat.maybe it is just that particulr unit.again the chrome one i have does not have this issue no just the intonation screw...you know how when you string it up the string almost touches the intonation screw behind the roller?it is an oval head screw and it just causes a bit of a rattle if the saddle is set low.some of us like pretty low action and having strings close to the body near the bridge as well...don't get me wrong,i know next time to create a neck angle to raise string clearance to the body so the saddles sit higher.i justwish it would have been mentioned in the literature because it is not apparent just by looking at the bridge...and it is very difficult right now to find a working guitar with a kahler to look at in the stores...aside from the haneman model and the kerry king model,i really know of none. these are just suggestions anyway,because most of us are very unfamiliar with these trems...an installation sheet would be a REALLYgreat thing to include in the box...you know,saddle height,stuff like that please don't read this as antagonistic.i just have to type in a hurry ecause my net kicks me off alot and i lose my post I will take your suggestions and apply them. thanks. Warped ....wow. thats a bizarre one for sure. Hey I will replace it..no prob. Please..I insist! The black arms plating on the threads will make it stiff for a few days till its worked in. This is normal About this screw hitting the string.... read the post i answered about this. Your saddles need to be no less than 10:30 oclock. THIS IS MUCHO IMPORTANTE OK? Recess the trem if necessary. I will post some help in this area. Yeah im getting tired too. be back tomorow. good nite all. Wammi

I'm sure you can find a vendor for your tinfoil hat on Slashdot, Mick In any case, I agree that his first post should have been in the auction/classified section. Since we have a bunch of people, including myself, that do have legit questions about setup and maintenance of the new-generation Kahlers, I don't think a thread in the main discussion will hurt anything. Are the 2300 units made better than the new 7300s? It seems like it's Fender vs. Squier here or something like that. Oooh...first thunderstorm of the year...I better shut down! Alot of people ask me that question. What is the diff? Why the 2 models that look the same. The answer is simple. In the past things were handmade to some extent. Now just the pro line is handmade. The hybrid and X trem are factory made and less expensive because of this. They are molded and such, not machined by hand. The Factory made versions have extra features because it can easily be incorporated in the factory. The Hybrid is USA made the X-tem is made offshore. The X-trem is for the offshore OEM's and their import guitars. The Hybrid is made for the end user and USA custom guitars. That's why its made here. If its a Kahler on the guitar it is an import. If its in the store its a Hybrid. It also says the name on it so you will know the diff. Some may feel this is a inferior piece next to the handmade. Absolutely wrong! The biggest decision we made back in 2004 was to NOT change the mechanics, feel and general tone at all. So they all share the same specs. Just manufactured differently. The pro line also has the choice of cams. I like the Hybrid cam myself, as it not so thin sounding like the steel cams are. Just my biased opinion. Lol

The answer to the screw problem is very simple...your saddles are way to low. Saddles should be no less than 10:30 o'clock. After that you will lose the sustain and possibly the string on a deep dive. This is the only way the screw top can hit your string. Your flatlined man! Lol raise em up and shim the neck or countersink the trem (you did good). I am going to add the body to max height measurement to the site. I hope this will save someone some grief. Wammi

Kahler USA does not want to do this. There are so many guitars out there in every shape and size. They want you to see a luthier. Its a liability thing ya know. as for instructions on all the other stuff. I am working on that on my own. I have specs posted...but not the ones your after. I will add to the spec page at the site. thanks for the suggest. Fine tuners need lube. I use GHS white grease but you can use a any good heavy type...not liquid. dont use 3 in 1 for this application. lube thoroughly. Now about the plating. This is easy to explain. The two colors are miles apart as far as how its applied and secondly its a different flatter finish by nature. The chrome is good ol standard chrome yes indeed. The black however a special type of plating and is outlawed in California due to it being high in chemicals and can't be disposed of in the state. So only 3 companies are still grandfathers in to do it here. Thats just the history...As for the finish, it's solid...just not real shiny. It's a semi-matte black finish. Hope this helps.

Well.... Where do I start? I'll be brief, please understand i want to answer all members questions so i'll shorten my answers. ok? 1) You said: i cannot fit anything larger than a 42 string in my low e saddle. - I have used 46 and 52 in GHS Boomers and never have a problem, windings and all. 2) That arm hole is not badly machined, that is chamfered that way on purpose to eliminate cross threading. All Kahler cam systems have his since the 80's 3) What is not flat on the bottom? And the "metal" in the string hooks has been the same since the 80's too. This is all a new thing because these days everyone wants to be a Zak Wylde you know? .52's are the max you can use somewhat safely, and thats pushing the envelope. Yes I suppose we will have to make them stronger but the market is not quite there yet. This is a small segment of players with this problem. I think we will eventually sell a beefed up string hook for the heavier strings. I know we have some now, but they are slated for the 7 and 8 strings and in short supply yet. I will inquire, then when more are available, I will push for availability through the parts store. 4) That screw has been used since the inception back in 81. What else can I say? Honestly, no one has ever said a thing to me about this before, so i am baffled. sorry. 5) not sure what this is about....ss? black ones? you talkin rollers? Hope this helps and thanks for the welcome mat. Wammi

Mr. P90, Call me ignorant i guess. I am a geek yes but I really don't know much about other stuff except Kahlers, system I, II and III's, wonderbars, floyds ect. The little stuff gets lost in the multitudes, and cobwebs of my brain......If you could email me a pic or a reference url for the edwards fingertite, i'll get a better understanding what your after. FYI Rollers work better...no drag. My opinion. Wammi

Yes i did because i am a worry wart. When you said probs were happening and the site name, i switched to high gear. I like the site and figure i can help out. I see I am causing some indigestion with some other members. Im a tough pill to swallow i guess. Also getting a zillion questions...which is good i guess. Till i have to go to bed. Lol. I hope I can keep up because the phone from Kahler support and my biz is keeping me occupied. Anyhow did you get my reply to those string sizes? .90 on 7 and 8? Wammi

Mickguard, Very respectfully.... I digress. I see it like this, Sure i would like to sell some trems and bridges...yes absolutely. I run a business. I sell Kahler tremolos through my own web store, Wammi USA. I sell what I play with everyday. But I really joined this forum to help out if i can and maybe help others make a responsible decision before they put their guitar under the knife. I love working with end users and just want to help if i can and maybe make a buck or two, Americana style!. Thats all.....forgive me if i gave off the wrong impression. These are my true colors....red, white and blue. And since I also run the Kahler USA customer support and parts dept. for Kahler USA, I saw an opportunity to let others know about Kahler products. I know more about Kahlers than anyone except Gary Kahler himself. This is why i have this job. With over 900 parts to keep track of for 20+ versions (ever here of the 2600?), in 4 different colors, I know all the inner secrets of all the models. I want to help. Wammi

Greg, Congrats on making this my first question answered here. This is a great site!. A kahler won't work for your headless. #1) There is not enough tuner travel to bring you up to tune. Not even close. #2) All string hooks are .60 (except for 7-8 strings) and the roller groove is big enough for that. #3) As far as my return/exchange policy goes.....I want to make you happy. I will exchange it, refund it, work out the problems with you, whatever it takes to get you rockin!.....ok? Lol No worries and thank you for the welcome! Wammi

Most of you don't know me. Those that do,.. know me as John at Kahler Parts. I am the Parts, Service and Support head at Kahler USA. If anyone needs some Kahler questions answered I'll be glad to help you. Its my job. If you want to hear a Kahler live, or need some 1 on 1 help, I will be happy to call you on the phone or better yet...If your able, i can Skype or MSN messenger you with my PC video camera and give you a E-jam Lol. Privately email me at wammi@wammiusa.com I will arrange with you a private showing of the range and sound. If any of you out there are familiar with streaming live or videos that can be displayed on the web, please email me. I am unfamiliar in this territory but I am anxious to post lessons and demos of the sound, ranges and techniques ect. I need some expert video posting guidence here. Wammi J www.wammiusa.com (951) 541-2387 www.kahlerparts.com (760) 494-5969

I am the tech and support head for Kahler USA and i can tell you flat out with out hesitation...there is no trem in the world has more pull up range than a Kahler cam system. all trems can dive to the floor but none pull back as far as a cam system. 7300's are now locking and on sale for $159.00 through www.wammiusa.com