gilmourguy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 I m looking for my first electric and my local music shop guy showed me this nice used semihollow artstar ibanez. Its the best guitar i can get right now and i like it alot its a good deal but i was wondering if i could still get that "hendrix" like tone or will it be ok to play some pink floyd? Also will effects work just as good as on a solid body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bicycle made of anarchy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 effects will work just a good as on a solid body, no problem there... those artstar ibanez' are cool boxes. if you like how it plays, i would pick it up... for pure hendrix tone, you'd have to get a strat, his fingers yada yada yada the same old argument. but if you dig it, dig in, no fear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 remeber that the guitarist for Taproot plays a hollowbody Ibanez, i forgot the model right now Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Ahhh, its been so many years, then reality intervened. Effects will work on anything that is amplified, real fun thru a mic! As far as you sounding like Hendrix or Gilmour with this guitar I don't see it happening without the proper effects and talent. Not to mention that both used strats w/ single coils. . Your guitar will sound MUCH mellower. But I like semi-hollow bodys, real comfy to play. http://store1.yimg.com/I/chrisbsmusicinc_1784_2825177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heugel Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 If the Nug can make those Byrdland's sound like screaming wildcats, why not give it a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asm Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 sure body type has a bit to do with sound, but think about construction (set neck or neck thru) material, pickups, scale, and what amp its thru and the processing before it. thats alot of factors. just get it and play the thing. worry about that stuff later. the guitarist from Nothingface plays a black gibson hollowbody tuned to B thru Randall amps and it sounds BRUTAL. so dont let that be the judge of the sound just yet. t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 I m looking for my first electric and my local music shop guy showed me this nice used semihollow artstar ibanez. Its the best guitar i can get right now and i like it alot its a good deal but i was wondering if i could still get that "hendrix" like tone or will it be ok to play some pink floyd? Also will effects work just as good as on a solid body? I don't understand...those Artcore guitars cost about the same as a Mexican Strat ...and that's going to get you a whole hell of a lot closer to your Hendrix/Floyd sound. I'd say the music shop guy is misleading you and just trying to unload the guitar. Or maybe he really likes it and wants you to like it too (they are darned perty!) I have a Samick Royale --it's basically the same guitar (heck, it IS the same guitar) but less expensive. The stock pickups are great for jazz....I changed mine for P90s and now it rocks. Still, if you want that Strat sound, get yourself a strat! Go to another store and have a look around...You should be able to find a decent used strat for the same as that Artcore... Another issue to consider with the semi-hollow bodies--they're much wider guitars, more difficult to handle, especially sitting down. You're going to be more comfortable with a slimmer, lighter, smaller guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 i don't think you will be happy with the sound for what you want to play. like idch said,look around,you can find a strat for that same price. http://guitartrader.com/dir3.icl?secid=102...96062342819217A here is a whole page of them.and these guys are dependable to order from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 (edited) Yeah, but those MIM Standards are like 8 piece bodies (literally, 5 to seven slices of alder with a front and back veneer), yuck! Believe it or not, the squier Infinity line are pretty good quality guitars with a nice ALDER body (unlike the Squier Standards which are agathis, I really think you need alder or ash to get Fender tone, maybe poplar) although they are a little on the thin side (not tone wise). Lot's of folks swear by them, and you are probably going to upgrade a MIM Standard strat anyway, so why not upgrade a $150 guitar? (hint, keep all the original parts, as you'll want to put them back if you ever go to sell your guitar, then you can sell the upgraded pickups, tuners, etc, separately and get more of your money back). However, I really love the necks on the MIM Standard line and the finishes are excellent. I just wish they would use standard 2 or 3 piece bodies and alnico pickups. By the way, I've owned two MIM Standards, a 98 and a 2001, in about 2001 they switched from poplar bodies to Alder bodies, also the Mexican factory seems to be constantly improving quality. There was a big difference in fit, finish, and tone between both guitars, with the 2001 model being a superior instrument. I replaced the pickups in both guitars (Texas Specials in the 98 - not my cup of tea by the way, and Tex Mex in the 2001 - better vintage strat tone to my ears, more bell like highs, yadda, yadda), however, and in my 2001 model upgraded to the callaham strat bridge. I've also owned an older squier affinity, and other than the pickups, it was a great guitar. Edited December 9, 2004 by javacody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMaestro Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 For the music you want do play DON'T(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) buy that guitar it will frustrate you. A hollowbody will never sound like a strat let alone most electric guitars. And that's just one side of the coin. Playing a real electric is way easier if you want to play technically more involved stuff like Hendrix + Gilmour(both are not really good in terms of technique, but from reading your post I suspect you are just starting). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmourguy Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 IS the ibenez artstar worth $700? thats how muc hthe owner said it was originally. Whe nim talkign about getting the gilmour or hendrix tone i would still be buying effects later to get it. And i really just need it to play their songs ok, not exactly like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 (edited) They are selling for average $700 US brand new. And I've seen previously enjoyed Artstars for about half that. You can do better. Get a little internet search going and see prices for yourself. There are a TON of different Ibanez Artstars, some are higher end guitars made earlier in Japan while the newer, less expensive ones are coming out of Korea and China. But find out what model number this guitar is and look up some reviews here. Should give you a better idea of what to expect performance and pricewise. Edited December 9, 2004 by Southpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javacody Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 gilmourguy, it sounds like you don't really want our advice, but I will predict this, in 1 year, you will be selling that guitar, probably at a big loss and getting a strat. Good luck buddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilmourguy Posted December 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 So your saying that the hollowbady isnt good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Yeah, but those MIM Standards are like 8 piece bodies (literally, 5 to seven slices of alder with a front and back veneer), yuck! Are you saying thats a bad thing?? For the Jem I am building I have multiple laminates of Basswood Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivin Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Are you saying thats a bad thing?? For the Jem I am building I have multiple laminates of Basswood I would have thought common sense would dictate you would want as fewer peices laminated together as possible. I dont want to be quoted out of context, but all i mean is like, you would much rather a 1 peice body than an 8 peice with 8 laminations/glue joins ect ect ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 it is not a bad thing.it is a different thing.musicians are supposed to be the most tolerant people in the world,yet most are not tolerant of laminates and another thing that strikes me as funny.the same guys that preach one piece bodies don't seem to mind 5 piece laminate necks...which are widely regarded as a good thing. but after saying all that,a 2 piece alder body(go ahead,try to find an alder blank wide enough for a one piece bolt on or set neck) will have more of the strat "snap" i think,since laminates seem to slightly mellow the tone to my ears and i personally PREFER 2 piece alder bodies to 3 or more pieces...but i also prefer 3 piece necks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickguard Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 So your saying that the hollowbady isnt good? No, the Ibanez is probably a great guitar...the question, is it right for you...and it really does seem like you'll be happier with a solidbody, at least for your first electric...This Ibanez is a jazz guitar, that's what it's made for, and no amount of FX will change that. Do you know how to play guitar already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xebryusguitars Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 if you want a hollow body plus some power, get something like a schecter c-1 e/a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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