GnognoFasciani Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Hi you all! I'm a brand new member and a brand new "luthier" ! I can't understand almost anything of electronics diagrams, but for my first project I was thinking to have a 5 way telecaster.... looking for a diagram i found it on guitarnuts: My problem is: I don't want the tone pot and I want a miniswitch to split the humbucker (it's a 4 wire, Dimarzio Evolution.... ; the other one it's a Seymour Duncan Phat Cat ) Can anybody help me? Which connection are to be made after tone pot removal? Where do I place the miniswitch? If only someone could modify the diagram for me ... Thanks! P.S. Sorry if I made any mistakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 If you can list specifically what you want in each position, I'll be happy to give 'er a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 1)Neck 2)Neck+Bridge in Series and Out of Phase 3)Neck+Bridge in Parallel 4)Neck+Bridge in Series 5)Bridge The miniswitch should make positions 2-3-4-5 work with only one coil of the bridge pu... Is it Possible or just a dream? Thanks for your Help!! I forgot to say that I'l have evolution on bridge position and phatcat on the neck position, but I think you had already understood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 There's your tone control gone - to split the coils on the Evolution, simply wire a SPST switch to short the black wire to ground. Enjoy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren wilson Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 What did the switching do in that diagram? It looked like it would switch in a tone capacitor in certain positions. You might need a completely different wiring schematic to do what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Thanks for your help! I didn't know what to do after tone pot removal... Weren't capacitors necessary to phase/out of fase selection? Sorry but I can't understand what you mean by saying "wire a SPST switch to short the black wire to ground", I'm not very familiar with pu wiring! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 So was I right saying that capacitor probably are connected to the phase switching? What about this way? series split parallel with phase But in this case I'll need again to ask someone to do the complete diagram for me ... I'm a real newbie!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 All that 4th pole did was switch the tone caps around (or out completely) - since he didn't want a tone control, the entire section became redundant. All the other switching is done on poles 1 thru 3. And wiring a split-coil on a 4-conductor humbucker is literally as simple as grounding the black wire on the DiMarzio - so you've got everything you asked for. Do you need a diagram to show you how to wire a switch to ground the black wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 It will be a great thing for me! Thanks for everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 OK, here you go! This is how it's wired with a standard SPDT toggle switch - if you can find a SPST toggle with only two terminals, the only way you can get it wrong is to wire both leads to the same terminal. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockthe40 Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 .........the only way you can get it wrong is to wire both leads to the same terminal. HTH ← LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Thanks again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Is it corret? Cause if I'm not right I can't understand... What about a DPDT on/on switch instead of the toggle? I ask this question because i can only find 3 way toggle switch and in this case I will have a useless position where nothing is wired... Does dpdt on/on switch works with diagram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 No, but it's almost that simple - here's a DiMarzio pickup: The black and white wires connect together to put the two coils in series (standard humbucking configuration) - to "split' the pickup, simply short that black wire to ground. In other words, connect a jumper from the black wire where your diagram shows Bridge -. You can use a DPDT or any other switch, a push-pull pot, a rocker switch, etc. Don't overthink this, it's deceptively simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 At this point I think that I didn't understand a single word of yours and I feel just a LITTLE confused even if you say that it is simple... I'll think it over but I'm almost sure I won't understand anything but a drawing (I know English but electronics is driving me crazy because I don't understand very well) Thanks and please don't loose your patience even if I know that I'm a pain in the *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Look at the wire coming out of your DiMarzio pickup and tell us what you see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 (edited) Think I get it... This should be the diagram The spdt on/off/on toggle switch should work that way: 1) One coil 2) both coils 3) The other one What do you think? Will it work? Will it sound awful? Thanks for your help! P.S. Is this the correct switch? Edited February 4, 2005 by GnognoFasciani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 No, that won't work either. See if this explains it: That's what I've been trying to say! That toggle switch in the Ebay auction will work, but it has a center OFF position, so there will be two positions that don't split the coils. I hope that makes it clear, I'm running out of things to tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) First I have to say that you made it clear , but why "my" diagram won't work? My diagram and yours looks very similar in my (maybe stupid) opinion(I posted the pic knowing that wire colours weren't the same as the original pickup); I found it HERE and i thought It could work... Edited February 5, 2005 by GnognoFasciani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovekraft Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 OK, it only won't work wired as shown with a DiMarzio pickup. I can't read the fine print, so I don't now exactly what you intended, but if you change it around so the black/white junction is in the middle, and the red and green wires are at either ends, it would allow you to select your coil, north or south, or center for humbucker. Happy wiring!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnognoFasciani Posted April 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP !!! I wired it this way: It doesn't work and I can't figure out why.... Edited April 15, 2005 by GnognoFasciani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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