Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 (edited) I was just wondering if Black wood dye will COMPLETELY ebonize the wood so that no grain is showing. I was wondering if i could pull off the blue to black burst... then dye the mahogany back of my strat black... or am i gonna have to buy paint now... .... although... it might look cool to go to just a faded black color... not a total fade to complete black? any of you wanna judge this idea... cuz if you guys dont like it.. ill just say "oh yeah thats stupid...id never do that " Edited September 1, 2005 by Ledzendrix1128 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 You'll be able to see the grain a little bit through the dye. You need to spray some black lacquer on the back if you want it to be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mledbetter Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 you could use behlen jet spray for black lacquer.. or you could use a sprayer to spray the dye onto the wood and control the opacity through layering of coats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 yeah except i have no sprayers and im short on cash... so i might just try to get it as dark as i can with layers and layers of wiped on black dye... who knows... it might look pretty cool with the grain though... ive never seen a guitar like that... so if anyone has links or pictures that woudl be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Myka made a pretty slick, all black, guitar a few weeks ago. It wasn't painted either. Lemme see if I can get a link for you... http://www.mykaguitars.com/instruments/031/default.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattia Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Leather dye is what's often used for blackening fingerboards, and might be the way to go here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Myka made a pretty slick, all black, guitar a few weeks ago. It wasn't painted either. Lemme see if I can get a link for you... http://www.mykaguitars.com/instruments/031/default.htm ← This is an exelent example, but I don't think that it could be a good finish for a beginner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Myka made a pretty slick, all black, guitar a few weeks ago. It wasn't painted either. Lemme see if I can get a link for you... http://www.mykaguitars.com/instruments/031/default.htm ← This is an exelent example, but I don't think that it could be a good finish for a beginner. ← yes yes, i am a beginner.. but what i was thinkin about doing was blue top with black raised grain... faux maple binding... then dye the mahogany back black and just seal it with nitro... you think that its do-able? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Like this with a black back? why not! I was refering to the french polich that David did! And you don't "raise" the grain you fill it with the black stain to accentuate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 yeah that finish is awesome... my main concern is the back though, is that mahogany? and if it is... how did you finish/dye it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...opic=14229&st=0 this is the thread. The back on this one is walnut, and it is natural color with the grain filled with black epoxy. Not dyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 yeah that is really nice, guess ill be ordering some grain filler for the mahogany, how would you recomend staining the mahoganyi wanted to get it to like a dark brown. and also, what kind of black dye did you use, like ratio wise.... im so afraid im gonna make it too black and mess everything up... is that even possible to make it too dark, cuz if it only absorbs to a certain point i can sand it back and ill still have dye-able maple to stain blue right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 I bought the colortone from Stew Mac. I started with the ratio they recommend and keept adding until I was at the tone that I liked. So I realy have no Idea but it is close to 15-25% stain. And yes it is very possible to make it too dark, if you look at my thread you will see that the 1st stained pic is very dark, I then "washed" the color until I reached the desired tone. Mahogany is usualy a nice brown, unless you got some nice piece of honduran that is more of a dark honey-brown color. That's the one I used for my strat and I bleached it and it turned a beautiful golden honey color, but I was going for a blue stained look, and no matter how I tried to mix the stain it didn't worked. Thats when I decided to paint it. this is the walnut back and this is mahogany, both have the grain filled with black epoxy. if you want to darken the mahogany a bit, you can use brown stain very light and add to the back until you get to the desired tone, but if you want a black tone, I would rather use paint, unless you want to show the mahogany, then use black stain, but I'm warning you it is not easy to get it even, I don't know if it was my piece, but I had a hard time to get it even. I rather paint it with translucent color next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted September 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 yeah ill just dilute the black so its real weak, and just keep doing multiple coats on the quilt maple until its dark enough... then sand it back... or will that make the wood absorb the stain too far into the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 check on the thread I posted, there is a step by step there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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