Recursion Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hello again, all at project guitar! This is my second prs project, an alder body, carved top guitar. The first one was a disaster. I messed up with the neck and drilled my bridge holes to close to the pickup! My new saying is..... Cut once measure twice! Ill post pictures for you guys to compare. Here is a picture of the body>>> http://usera.imagecave.com/system/showpict...=P1000551.JPG&a You can find the rest of the pictures here>>> http://usera.imagecave.com/Guitarmaster88/ As you can tell I haven't really done much sanding. The pick up and electronics hole need sanded. The back and top also need it. What kinda finish do you guys think I should do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 looks like a nice job to me. How are you planning on finishing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Im not sure yet. Any suggestions or comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse666 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) Natural!!!! Or deep brown... nothings more manly than deep brown Edited November 30, 2005 by eclipse666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8rofwyo Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Being that there is nothing really spectacular about the grain in the body, I would probably go for a solid color or maybe a burst. Beyond that it just boils down to what you are comfortable doing. Body looks nice so far, hope it continues to go well. Nate Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Thanks for all the comments! Im thinking I might do a sunburst. What would be the best way to achieve that effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8rofwyo Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Poor boy burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledzendrix1128 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 a translucent emerald green to black burst would look nice on that in my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewarlock Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 i don't wanna be like the brinder of bad news, but if you plan to use that neck, you will have to remove too many frets, that neck is for a bolt on guitar, if you wanted to use it, you should have added a longer neck pocket, unless you're modifiyng this neck and adding a longer heel that allows the frets to stay clear of the body, other than that the body looks very good, i'd go with emerald green and gold hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) I too, had to look twice at how the neck is fitting. Thats not where you are leaving it, right? You haven't mentioned anything about how you plan to mount your neck. I don't see a lot of room there. whats your plan? Otherwise the body has good potential so don't waste it. The carving job looks nice and symmetrical. Looks like it will be a comfy guitar to play. Your two body halves are quite different in color tones, light/dark. You might be able to match the tone with varying strengths/applications of dye or stain on each side. That is, if you want to show the wood grain. You could balance them out to give the guitar a uniform color tone. Edited December 1, 2005 by Southpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I could really see that going metallic purple flake with 7 layer cream and black binding and chrome hardware and pickup covers-- but that's just me. No matter what color you choose, for some reason I think it's just screaming metal flake-- I don't know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 ahaha.... no im not gunna use that neck. I just was seeing what it looked like. That neck is off a gibson les paul(or so I was told-it has no inlays) I have to do a neck with a heal. I kinda wish I did the AANJ like on maidens guitar. You got some pretty good eyes southpa, it is 2 different color pieces. Im thinking about doing the burst unless, I find a something i like better. I like the idea of the blue body and gold hardware too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I have to do a neck with a heal. I kinda wish I did the AANJ like on maidens guitar. I'm glad you liked mine!!! You can almost duplicate the same with a heel, just make it wider and "shape" it to comform to the body lines! You can make a PRS style neck too, those are quite fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 How do you guys think I should do the neck? I want to do a 22 fret neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahilltrade Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 i would do a 24 just because of insane solos and crazy harmonics.....your build tho....nice so far man , keep iit up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Set neck and/or bolt on maple neck with a shallow Strat style heel. As I mentioned, you don't have a lot of room so insert it so the tenon covers the entire pickup cavity, glue it in and then rerout the neck pickup cavity. You have an interesting combination going with the body so a lot depends on what sort of bridge you plan on using. Remember that a TOM could require a slight neck angle. This could be the most crucial part of the build so make sure you have a GOOD idea that is going to work, ie. figure out your fretboard height/positioning and neck angle (if any). I wouldn't position the bridge until you have your neck done. Edited December 2, 2005 by Southpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 So Southpa which way do you think I should set it up? I want to put a gibson tune o matic bridge on it. I dont think Ive ever seen a strat style heel. This is the part I messed up on with my last guitar. I want to have 22 fret neck. Does this mean the frets are wider if its a 24inch in length? Could you elaborate on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpa Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Actually, on a closer look I would skip the strat-style idea. Sorry bout that. Referring to this picture: http://usera.imagecave.com/system/showpict...P1000551.JPG&a= Your neck pocket is almost non-existant, maybe 1" long before you reach the pickup cavity. There is very little surface area for bolting/screwing in a neck and neck stability is your number one factor here. The mounting screws would wind up under the pickup. So a setneck is the only option. Since you want to use a TOM bridge you will have to accomodate for its height. That means cutting an angle into your neck pocket or cutting an angle into your neck heel, either way, TOM's generally need to have a neck angle at 2 to 3 degrees. Other options are to sink the bridge into the body or raise the fretboard, but the latter would result in a violin-like string height off the body. I've done well with a combination of slight neck angle and slightly recessed bridge. Anyway, here is a good example for you to follow to get your neck mounted. Its right up your alley! http://www.soulmateguitars.com/Installing%...0Set%20Neck.htm Edited December 2, 2005 by Southpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Thanks for the tips southpa! I like that tutorial its really helpful. I didnt see that one on the homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Actually, on a closer look I would skip the strat-style idea. Sorry bout that. Referring to this picture: http://usera.imagecave.com/system/showpict...P1000551.JPG&a= 1. The mounting screws would wind up under the pickup. So a setneck is the only option. 2. That means cutting an angle into your neck pocket or cutting an angle into your neck heel, either way, TOM's generally need to have a neck angle at 2 to 3 degrees. Other options are to sink the bridge into the body 1. In this case Southpa you are wrong, he can still do a bolt on, just not traditional style. The Saga HT-10 and some PRS (CE if I'm not wrong) are bolt on necks and have the same area you have on yours, 2 screws on the top and 2 under the pup area 2. I will do the recess into the body before the angle anyday, but since you have already a carve, you can modify it a bit to make the angle into the body carving rather than the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lietuvis Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Maiden69, the PRS bolt-ons(if they are the ones that you are talking about) have a long neck tenon. So, they are really no different from a long set neck tenon, just that they are not glued in. I am pretty sure that they go on much further than the neck pickup cavity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recursion Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Actually, on a closer look I would skip the strat-style idea. Sorry bout that. Referring to this picture: http://usera.imagecave.com/system/showpict...P1000551.JPG&a= 1. The mounting screws would wind up under the pickup. So a setneck is the only option. 2. That means cutting an angle into your neck pocket or cutting an angle into your neck heel, either way, TOM's generally need to have a neck angle at 2 to 3 degrees. Other options are to sink the bridge into the body 1. In this case Southpa you are wrong, he can still do a bolt on, just not traditional style. The Saga HT-10 and some PRS (CE if I'm not wrong) are bolt on necks and have the same area you have on yours, 2 screws on the top and 2 under the pup area 2. I will do the recess into the body before the angle anyday, but since you have already a carve, you can modify it a bit to make the angle into the body carving rather than the neck. ← Do you have an example? I like the idea of having a bolt on better than the set because, I can modify the angles and play with it to get the best tone and feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Do you have an example? I like the idea of having a bolt on better than the set because, I can modify the angles and play with it to get the best tone and feel. ← http://universaljems.com/cart/ht10/ht10.htm Lietuvis, the PRS do have a long tenon, no longer than the strat! But the tenon extends under the neck pup and is bolted there! unlike strats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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