!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 (edited) Ok some BREAKING NEWS Iam killing this IMPALER and starting over again with a new maple body that I will be painting black and I will be useing a EMG-707 for the pickup and a hipshot bridge Iam going for a very clean dark look with the new IMPALER I will be trying to do a Tutorial with this one as I go but since this will be my first paint job it may end up being a what NOT to do Tutorial but It will take me some time to get it started since I have a lot of other guitars to finish right know as you can tell with how long the X-IMPALER has been siting around if your asking your self "why would he be starting over on the IMPALER" well I need to learn a few new thing's and Maiden's new work has realy made me want to do alot better with my work so iam starting fresh with some new 2 1/2 inch thick maple and a new idea!! !!METAL MATT!! Edited February 12, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlague Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 killing? what precisely does killing involve? if you're talking about actually destroying the guitar, i would be more than happy to take it off your hands. i'd hate to see all that work just get killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmike Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 theres going to be a lot of dissapointed people whove been following this project (me included) . why not just finish it off anyway? just for fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hey Matt. you already started it and have made great progress, finish it and then start a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Oh NO NO NO! Iam sorry about that one I mean that Iam starting over with the IMPALER design Iam still going to finish this guitar the thing's that I want to fix with the IMPALER are first that the body is way to thin way way to thin and it feals halfassed to me also the Chamfered cuts on the top just suck!! there way to small and it's not the sharp look I was going for I want tighter lines and a clearner meaner and more EVIL look!!, that this one just does not have I think it's the wood I used!! I realy need a great headstock design for the new one and I cant think of a good one that really fits so anymore Ideas would be great!! !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xebryusguitars Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Well I think the headstocks on the Centurion guitars (by ed roman) are really bada$$ looking. Maybe something like http://www.edromanguitars.com/avail/guitar...Headstk_950.jpg that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlague Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 alright that's good. i was really hoping you weren't really going to just throw that one away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 (edited) HAHA nope Iam not going to just throw it away in fact It's going for lacquer in about 2 days but Iam not sure if I will be dyeing it or not, because I wet it down today to raise the grain for sanding out the scratches and to my suprise it looked deep and wild with some nice figering but when it's dry it look's dull and pinkish with no figering at all !!METAL MATT!! Edited February 15, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hay just a question does any one have any idea's where I could place the Jack on the new IMPALER I want to keep the top as oppen as possible! Any Suggestions?? !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveq Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Maple - Yeah!!!! I hope you like it as much as I do. As for a headstock, what about checking out some knife manufacturers (Gerber?) and use them as inspiration? I'm not a big fan of 3x3, 4x2, or 4x3 (for 7 strings) - especially for metal guitars. I'm an inline kind of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 YA I know I realy suck at this part I just cant think of any thing, I want something that's betwen a beast headstock and a widow headstock but that works with a 7-string in mind I know that I have had alot of designs Thrown at me but when I draw them out they just dont fit with the IMPALER design I just dont why I cank get this I can do all these guitar body desings but I cant do one deadly headstock!! http://www.bcrich.com/guitar_shapes.asp !!METAL MATT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmike Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 hey matt, keep the jack on the back of the guitar. i always think pots and jack sockets spoil a good design, im putting mine on the back, but i havent really figured out where. cant make any decisions until i actually get it. as for the headstock i couldnt suggest anything myself other than keeping the pegs 3 a side with one slap bang in the middle (making 7). like the BC rich widow but with a peg sticking out of the top. (if you catch my drift)? it might spoil the design but i havent seen anything like that before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hear's a new idea Iam toying with, Any Suggestions!! hey matt, keep the jack on the back of the guitar. Ya iam thinking that would be the best way to go about it but Iam not sure how I would do it there's not alot of room!! !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmike Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 matt that headstock is pure evil !! i really like the "claw" on the end, but id like it better if the pegs were a bit tidier, symetrical maybe? dont get me wrong, the design is mental, but the pegs look just a tad squint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlague Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 eh i'm not liking that headstock so much. when doing a 4x3 (or any non symmetrical configuration) a straight string pull design is a must IMO. other wise the strings get spread out weird and throw the look off (for me at least). and the claw still looks a bit thrown on to me. it looks like you had a decent design going, and then just decided to throw that onto the end to make it metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) matt that headstock is pure evil !! i really like the "claw" on the end, but id like it better if the pegs were a bit tidier, symetrical maybe? dont get me wrong, the design is mental, but the pegs look just a tad squint. ← Thank's man "PURE EVIL" is what Iam going for as far as the peg hole's go that's about the best I can do If I put them any where else the Angle off the nut would be to extrem! If any one has any ideas on how I could change this? eh i'm not liking that headstock so much. when doing a 4x3 (or any non symmetrical configuration) a straight string pull design is a must IMO. other wise the strings get spread out weird and throw the look off (for me at least). and the claw still looks a bit thrown on to me. it looks like you had a decent design going, and then just decided to throw that onto the end to make it metal. HAHA the problem with that one is that I started with the claw do you have any design Suggestions that may look a bit better? !!METAL MATT!! Edited February 16, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Sorry Edited February 16, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePlague Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) HAHA the problem with that one is that I started with the claw do you have any design Suggestions that may look a bit better? !!METAL MATT!! ← shows how much i know. i don't really have any ideas right now other than making the claw smaller. i'll play around with some stuff later tonight and see if i can come up with something. i'm not very good with headstock designs though (which is ironic, since i'm very picky about what i like in a headstock). Edited February 16, 2005 by ThePlague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Try to make the string pull a bit more straight. Then paly with the top of the headstock to make it to your liking. The one you did looks too wide on the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum5545 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Here are my suggestions: First, place the tuning pegs in places that give you a straight(er?) string pull, but still makes an aesthetically pleasing curve. Then, redraw the edges in a way that looks good and still gives you access to the tuning keys (what's the distance from the peg to the button?) Finally, make the horn a wee bit smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) Here are my suggestions: First, place the tuning pegs in places that give you a straight(er?) string pull, but still makes an aesthetically pleasing curve. Then, redraw the edges in a way that looks good and still gives you access to the tuning keys (what's the distance from the peg to the button?) Finally, make the horn a wee bit smaller. ← That sounds like A good idea man thanks I will give it a try and see how it turns out! Try to make the string pull a bit more straight. Then paly with the top of the headstock to make it to your liking. The one you did looks too wide on the bottom. Ya Maiden your right the bottom is wide and to me the whole thing look like it's siting to far to one side I will work on that as well and I will post the new pic's later! !!METAL MATT!! Edited February 16, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Ok hears a new one it's not as wild as the other one but it look's good on the IMPALER what do you guy's think?? !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb0109 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Looks good, but I would space out the 4 side just a bit maore and place the pegs on the 3 side between the pegs on the 4 side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadmike Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 i really like that new design, it fits the guitar better than the "claw" but those 7 pegs are becoming a bugger arent they.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!METAL MATT!! Posted February 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) I think I like it the way it is realy it's way better than the last one and this design should make it a bit easyer on me when I build more necks for the IMPALER design your right I should work on the pegs a bit more Now I know "IT'S ABOUT DAM TIME" I did my own neck So iam thinking about building the neck out of some of the maple I got for the new IMPALER, the wood is like 6 feet long, 9 inchs wide, and 2 1/2 inchs thick and I got it for 40.00 bucks!! but Iam not building my own fret board OK! that's the one thing that freeks me out the most PS, I have no idea what iam doing is building a 7-string any different than a 6-string if so how?? !!METAL MATT!! Edited February 16, 2005 by !!METAL MATT!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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