shanter Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Im out to make a guitar with a Floyd Rose and im sort of confused as to what exactly im supposed to use as a template for the routing. I did read the pinned topic about the tremolo but im still confused. What measurements are the ones i shoudl use to route? http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/I-1118.html this one is for the floyd rose...but is it not at all routed on top? http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/I-1119.html this one is for the recessed but from what i said up top you can understand why this confuses me. http://floydrose.com/instructions.html#original this one is right off the Floyd Rose site but is it recessed?? compared to this http://www.chrisguitars.com/esp-body-green.jpg the rear routing of the tremolo is different from the dimensions given on the floydrose website.... Hopefully someone can see my dillema here...which measurements are the best for me to use....I would assume the ones right from floydrose.com but still id love some help. -thanks! (BTW heres the autoCAD i did for the guitar...if anyone can find mistakes or what not then id appreciate the help http://www.shantergenian.com/stufff/gtar/m2s.jpg ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egdeltar Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 The first one is for strat style guitars where the floyd is not actually floating. This IMO is pretty pointless as you cant make the pitch sharp with the floyd as the body is in the way. I suggest you go the recessed direction for your floyd. The dimensionon on the floyd site should work great for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 egdeltar, inthis case you are wrong. Take a look at this auction for a 5150 guitar. All the old floys were set up like this. I had a Focus 1000 and it wasn't recessed and it was a full floating tremolo. You will need both templates if you plan on recesing the Floyd. I don't know how to identify which floyd doesn't need to be recess, as some of the newer ones are kinda bulky, also it depends on the place you position the neck, if you rout it too deep into the pocket you won't be able to go with the flush mount, and will need to recess. This one on the Floyd site "FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL - ROUTING TEMPLATES" are for a recessed, like you mentioned, the only thing missing is the rear rout shape, unless they are routing that big square area. Since you go good CAD skills, go to this link that you posted http://www.stewmac.com/freeinfo/I-1118.html and trace the rear template for the floyd, then resize to fit your rendering. See were it says block cavity 1' 9/16" deep! That should fit the hole in the center of the floyd template going all the way thru. Hope this helps a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted May 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 so which one would be right? The ones ive seen routed on guitars dont have that extra lip at the end...it doesnt seem necessary at all to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 The bottom one is close, here is a pic from a strat body at Warmoth.com, just go to the showcase to see more options. http://www.warmoth.com/showcase/bodies/large/S434b.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egdeltar Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 (edited) Im not wrong, take that "5150" and try to bend the pitch sharp with the bar. You will see what Im talking about. You can still do it but not as sharp as you can flat. Ive owned guitars with the non recessed floyds and yes they are still considered "floating", but IMO they are almost useless to a point. I just dont like having the floyd if it is not recessed, thats all. Edited May 31, 2005 by egdeltar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 egdeltar, it all depends on how you set it up, on my guitar you could pull it sharp, and the action was pretty darn low. I don't loke the look of the recessed Floyd, as a matter of fact, I like the old floyd better than the new ones, they are so much bulky. But that's a matter of taste and I can't do much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egdeltar Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 egdeltar, it all depends on how you set it up, on my guitar you could pull it sharp, and the action was pretty darn low. I don't loke the look of the recessed Floyd, as a matter of fact, I like the old floyd better than the new ones, they are so much bulky. But that's a matter of taste and I can't do much about it. ← Yeah its all opinion. I guess the guy should know what he really want before going to town on his body blank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I actually like the look of the recessed Floyd, i was jsut confused as to which measurements to utilize. Howabout neck angle...Would it be better to give the neck an angle or is it not worth the trouble and calculations?I read somewhere on here that most floating tremolos dont have an angled neck. Can anyone confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggardguy Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 If you recess it you don't need a neck angle, If its not recessed you'll need a neck angle. hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 If you recess it you don't need a neck angle, If its not recessed you'll need a neck angle. hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong. ← You don't need a neck angle, you can make it, to have more rangem, but the floyd will stand too high above the body, kinda like a TOM, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanter Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Alright sounds good. that gets rid of some calcuations that id rather not do. thanks for the replies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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