rich2k4 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 i took jackson dkmg in to be set up., when i got it back, i got home and everything seemd fine till i bent at the 15th fret on the B and high E strings. when i do this the bend sometimes dies out or sometimes just sounds really really mettaliic sound. most of the time it dies out. it only happens at the 15th fret, and only on the B and high E strings. what is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 (edited) You're "fretting out", The strings are being bent so far across(read up) the radius that they are resting on the 16th fret. edit: take it back and tell them to set it up so you can bend, its probably been set too low, or you've got some highish frets. Personally I'd just raise the action, I play pretty high, and I've got a crumby 9" radius on my guitar. Edited September 30, 2005 by Mr Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich2k4 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 i like low action, it sucks that i have to raise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Alex Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 You dont "have" to raise it, thats just the easy way out. there are other ways, I'd start by taking it back to whoever did it, and seeing if they'll fix the problem no extra charge(I doubt it though). Your 16th fret "may" need levelling, and those 2 strings are the only ones low enough to be resting on it when you bend. I only said raise the action as what I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich2k4 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 well i got a 3 month warrenty on the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 i like low action, it sucks that i have to raise it. ← yup. i play with insanely low action....i dont wanna have to go back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egdeltar Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Its either the action is just a bit too low or you have a low 15th fret or a high 16th fret. Id take it back and let them know about it and possibly check to see if the frets are level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich2k4 Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 i hope its just an action problem, i heard fret levelling can cost you hundreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 (edited) Fret leveling isnt that bad to pay for, now a refret can be quite a bit more. Leveling isnt nothing you couldnt learn to do yourself, I got it down pretty quick, you can do it. -Seth Edited October 1, 2005 by Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich2k4 Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 if you'd care to explain the process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 (edited) if you'd care to explain the process ← http://mywebpages.comcast.net/skgs/sk/fretcrowning.htm this is probably the best resource for it, i would definitely practice on something cheap first though, i mean i wouldnt do this to my main guitar until ive practiced Edited October 1, 2005 by Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Fret leveling isnt that bad to pay for, now a refret can be quite a bit more. Leveling isnt nothing you couldnt learn to do yourself, I got it down pretty quick, you can do it. -Seth ← the downside to this is how much you need done. a complete dressing job could really lower your frets and change the feel of ones guitar. at least thats what ive experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Fret leveling isnt that bad to pay for, now a refret can be quite a bit more. Leveling isnt nothing you couldnt learn to do yourself, I got it down pretty quick, you can do it. -Seth ← the downside to this is how much you need done. a complete dressing job could really lower your frets and change the feel of ones guitar. at least thats what ive experienced. ← that is true...really his best option would be to take it back to the person who set it up for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclej Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 i do a lot of fixes like yours..a lot of strat necks will fret out while bending on the higher frets..i just measure the radius, pick a radius block that's slightly flatter than what came from the factory and flatten the frets from about 12 on down to the end of the neck. after a re-crown and buff the fretting out while bending is gone. it shouldn't be too expensive..takes less than an hour to perform. good luck. edited to say: i only do that fix if it's found that the radius is causing the problem and it's not a high fret..which is even cheaper to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanb Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 What unclej is talking about is creating a compound radius fretboard (at least partially). Creating a cone shape instead of a simple cylinder will prevent this fretting out problem. It should be relatively easy and inexpensive to flatten out the radius a bit on the upper frets so that you can keep the low action you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Fret leveling isnt that bad to pay for, now a refret can be quite a bit more. Leveling isnt nothing you couldnt learn to do yourself, I got it down pretty quick, you can do it. -Seth ← the downside to this is how much you need done. a complete dressing job could really lower your frets and change the feel of ones guitar. at least thats what ive experienced. ← that is true...really his best option would be to take it back to the person who set it up for him ← i could never do such a thing. i have a beef with paying $60 for a setup when i can do it myself for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPLOAD Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 i have the same problem with my guitar, it can be really annoying, but i normally play rhythm, so it doesnt matter too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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