silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) I just got some aerosol deft lacquer. I have a couple questions. Is the stuff in the aerosol cans nitrocellulose as well as the stuff in the cuart cans? I got the one that is a white can with black writing on it, it says "gloss wood finish". Do you need to wait the usual 3-4 weeks for it to cure, and what exactly can't you do before it cures? Is it sandable, buffable, what? Edited October 25, 2005 by silvertonessuckbutigotone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Headen Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 The spray bombs are the good stuff. They usually cure hard within a week if you spray correctly. The brushable stuff takes forever to cure. I've never used it on a guitar, but I've tried it on smaller pieces. It has a lot of retarder added (I think) so it will flow out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I'm sure a small search would give you the answer to those questions and a lot more in the DEFT department!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i searched for deft here on the forum, but its really hard to sort through all of the threads that people merely mention deft lacquer... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegarehanman Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 When you do your search, click the box that allows you to see only the posts that mention "deft," not the whole thread in which the post is contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 My experience is that Deft never truly hardens. It is also very incompatible with nitrocellulose lacquers, even though it says that it is nitrocellulose on the label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 My experience is that Deft never truly hardens. It is also very incompatible with nitrocellulose lacquers, even though it says that it is nitrocellulose on the label. ← I can say that your experience should be pretty close to ZERO! An we all know that the question here is on spray can and not the liquid one! DEFT is nitrocelluloce! Period and end of disscussion, I e-mail them and I wish I had their responce to post it here! Just go to Lee Valley and check the description. All my guitars, after the LP have been finished with it. This 2 are for you to go swim at... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC02223.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC01898.jpg and once you are done! You can go stand next to this one to dry out!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC02045.jpg And silvertone! ( I wish I know your name! Good Lord that's a darn long name to write!) go here to post # 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Marossy Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have had good results with Deft lacquer as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonessuckbutigotone Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 thanks maiden, btw the names jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Your welcome Jack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbojerik Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Maiden doesn't know Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 My experience is that Deft never truly hardens. It is also very incompatible with nitrocellulose lacquers, even though it says that it is nitrocellulose on the label. ← I can say that your experience should be pretty close to ZERO! An we all know that the question here is on spray can and not the liquid one! DEFT is nitrocelluloce! Period and end of disscussion, I e-mail them and I wish I had their responce to post it here! Just go to Lee Valley and check the description. All my guitars, after the LP have been finished with it. This 2 are for you to go swim at... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC02223.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC01898.jpg and once you are done! You can go stand next to this one to dry out!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/Maiden69/DSC02045.jpg And silvertone! ( I wish I know your name! Good Lord that's a darn long name to write!) go here to post # 17 ← O.K. I'll admit that I have not tried the spray can stuff lately. Maybe the product has changed.I've been making instruments for a living for the past 25 years and have only sprayed about 700 new instruments and maybe another 500 refinishes and a few thousand other minor repair finishes. There's a lot to learn in the finishing department. I have seen regular nitrocellulose and Deft turn into a crazed mess when mixed. Very similar to mixing acrylics and nitro if you've done that. I'm always willing to learn though. I'll get a can of the spray stuff and see what it does over what we call "real nitro" in the guitar trade. As long as you're using just one product at a time, of course compatability does not matter. It's later down the line that problems occur to some unsuspecting repairperson. I'll let you know how that turns out. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden69 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Maybe the product has changed.I've been making instruments for a living for the past 25 years and have only sprayed about 700 new instruments and maybe another 500 refinishes and a few thousand other minor repair finishes. My God, you got more experience than Dan Erlewine! I'll get a can of the spray stuff and see what it does over what we call "real nitro" in the guitar trade. As long as you're using just one product at a time, of course compatability does not matter. It's later down the line that problems occur to some unsuspecting repairperson. I'll let you know how that turns out. -Bob ← You can use a lot of different products at a time! I use waterbased base colors, and haved used "acrylik" (duplicolor's mirage system and base colors) based with DEFT on top! With no problem... I do see that there are problems with compatability with some types of paint, and I have had that problem too! especialy with my first few paint jobs... But so far live has been good to me! And there is no way to compare what you call "real" nitro over any one that comes in a can! The can stuff is so thin that it will never compare to the gun type! And I can see a problem with finishing with both at the same time, since one is prone to dry (cure) a lot faster than the other creating shrinking problems. But I don't see any problem with refinishing over cured finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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