Curtis P Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I got a Hamer (Slammer series) Explorer, its a semi cheap one, well, kinda sorta not really. I have done this to it so far (and it helped alot) Seymour Duncan 59 pickups, a dirty in the bridge and a clean in the neck Lowered action Right now, it sounds pretty good, just this saturday, i was playing for a few people, and had a quite a few compliments on the tone (i was playing some classic rock, ACDC and Sabbath) I want a more distinct metal tone, but i also want something that will still "jump ya back in time" to the days of AC DC and Sabbath, and Ozzy, as I play that alot for people and just for my own personal training. I am also into alot of Metallica, a little bit of Slayer (i dont quite have the speed as K.K. does, but getting there) So, in saying that, I need something that will also be flexible enough to get the punch you in the face and spit on you metal tone. I was going to upgrade in amps, but, being as i live in town now, and not the country, my 80 watt peavey doesnt get turned up past 2 before i have my old fart of a neighbour banging on my bedroom window. If i could trade my amp in at a local guitar store, for something smaller, what would you folks recomend? I want to stay away from Active pickups, mainly because there is not alot of room under the pickgaurd or i the control cavity to have the battery. Thanks to all who reply, Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 jb in the bridge...leave the neck pup alone. amp....line 6 and crate both have some decent for rock and metal small amps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Ok, next question is, does anyone have a used JB they would be willing to sell? Any more info on the amps, models, etc...?? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 hmmm...why don't you build a rack,curtis? start with a sansamp rack preamp,combine that with a carvin tube rack power amp,and between the two run a multi effects processor ,and run it into one of those 2 by 12 speaker cabs carvin has. it's portable,it has bookoo sound choices,and it would sound good at any volume...plus you could buy it piece by piece everybody know the only way to exit is piece by piece.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 why dont you just sell me your mode 4 for real cheap, and i will go out and buy a metal zone and be done? Just kidding here, Well, as much as that would be sweet, but unfourtently, i wont be doing too much that i will need all that. I am not even sure what to look for in building a rack, never really seen one in person or looked at them too hard, all my buddies play a marshall head with cab, or a randall head with marshall cab, Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 a rack is simple...preamp,effects,eq,and power amp...for the basic.it all fits in a rack case....you just plug everything together and run the power amp out to the cab. if you want a head...look at the sansamp tech 21...or the line 6 heads...the tech 21 is much better though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 ok, so what do i look for for a pre amp? and an EQ, for a power amp, can i just use like a regular head and then a 2x12 cab, or how does that work? Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 well what do you want curtis?a head or a rack?they are independant in the case i am talking about.. you can get a line 6 head...a 50 watter costs about $300 or less(they are dirt cheap...for a reason)this might be fine for you and it would be a huge step up from the p.o.s. you have now...this plugs directly into a cab...any cab with a similar ohm rating...but look for vintage 30 speakers...carvin cabs have these http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?...212E&CID=GA the tech 21 head http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tec...itch?sku=480224 is much better...but more $ as well..same thing...plugs into any cab...but i would stick with art least a 280 watt cab...which would be too loud for what you want i think...but you don't have to push ithard like a tube amp...the sound is the same at any volume except that you push the speakers abit. jensen speakers are nice at low volumes...so i suspect the cheapo 400 watt behringer cab may work for you. a rack now....this is the sansamp preamp http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tec...eamp?sku=480041 i have that one...it has better sounds than the line 6,but is more expensive...combine it with any power amp..thisone is the cheapest i know of http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roc...Amp-?sku=480118 you put this one here in between them http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/TC-...ssor?sku=183030 and plug it into that carvin 2 by 12...and you have a huge array of sounds to play with.the sansamp has built in gain and enough eq...so all you need extra is the delays,choruses,flangers, and reverbs this unit provides get the optional footswitch... and you get a rack to put it in http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gat...Case?sku=544792 i have that one...you need at least 4 spaces. and that is exaclty the setup i am going to use on my combo amp project coming up...in which i will combine all of those into a 2 by 12 enclosure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis P Posted February 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 oh, sorry, my mistake, When you said rack, i thought a rack was made of a pre amp, a head, cab, and your effects, i didnt realize it wasnt that. Sorry, newbie to this stuff, lol I think for the time being, i will just modify my guitar, because i am not quite sure what i want, a line 6 head with a 2x12 cab under neath would be cool to have, but just a regular 50 watt marshall combo amp would all i really need, So, its a toss up, something i want and would be cool to have, opposed to the more practicle and logical thing, decisions decisons... lol Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhemann Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 those marshall combo amps aren't really good for metal.it's the open back speaker enclosure coupled with the not enough gain. i normally would not reccomend line 6 for metal....but for you,i think it woud get all the sounds YOU are after...after a few years if you increase your skills though,you will at that time want to upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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