Astro2k Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Hi I have two humbuckers I want to wire it up with No tone just Volume and a 3 way mini toggle that would select pickup 1 pickup 2 and off is there anyway to do this? and if so could someone do a diagram? Thanks a million. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berggeetars Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Well I'm no expert by any means, but if I were to do it, this is how I would go about it. I'd get a few more opinions on it though just to be safe. Any questions just ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro2k Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Well I'm no expert by any means, but if I were to do it, this is how I would go about it. I'd get a few more opinions on it though just to be safe. Any questions just ask Cool thanks just one more question if i wanted to make the off postion run both pickups is that possible? Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 thats possible but it wont work as an off posistion then, you would need to get a (on on on) switch and wire the pickups to the outside lugs of the switch and put the middle to the volume pot (when you select the middle of the switch it would put both pickups on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAArthur Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 thats possible but it wont work as an off posistion then, you would need to get a (on on on) switch and wire the pickups to the outside lugs of the switch and put the middle to the volume pot (when you select the middle of the switch it would put both pickups on) That would be the way to wire it. But if I'm not mistaken, the switch in the diagram would also have to be an on/on/on type to work as indicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 if the original was on on on it would have both pickups on in the center posistion (every lug on each pole is linked when the center is selected) , of course i maybe wrong because im getting confused... i think it would need to be an on off on switch for the off posistion (in the center) ignore my babbling i think this picture is correct. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7527/wiringwo6.jpg i posted all this on my site (http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/toggleswitches.html) a while ago, never got round to finishing the site because my mum got ill, but heres some info about toggle switches ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Toggle switches SPST - This is the most basic switch, and can be used to turn a portion of a circuit on or off. it is ideal for a killswitch http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/spst.jpg http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/658/spstdc4.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPDT - Toggles between two portions of a circuit, such as, say, two pickups. http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/spdt.jpg http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1862/spdtsi2.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DPDT: ON/ON - Similar to the above, but has two independent poles, it can be used to toggle phase. (sides). http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/dpdt.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7789/dpdted9.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DPDT: ON/ON/ON - This switch may be used as a series/parallel switch with the middle position providing a coil tap. http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/dpdtononon.jpg http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/862/dpdtonononmb7.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DPDT: ON/OFF/ON - Similar to the above, although with a "silent" option in the center position, preventing the passage of any signal. http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/dpdtonoffon.jpg http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9533/dpdtonoffonyg9.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3PDT: ON/ON - Similar to the above, with an Extra row of poles, usually used in effects pedals for 'True bypass' wiring. http://www.guitarhq.co.uk/3pdt.jpg http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2658/3pdtpq4.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- edit, added imageshack links since my hosts are not reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro2k Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Thanks for all your help you guys are great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAArthur Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 if the original was on on on it would have both pickups on in the center posistion (every lug on each pole is linked when the center is selected) , of course i maybe wrong because im getting confused... i think it would need to be an on off on switch for the off posistion (in the center) ignore my babbling i think this picture is correct. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7527/wiringwo6.jpg Cool - a "guess the switch" game!! You're correct - an on on on switch wouldn't work as wired. But an on off on wouldn't work either - not the way it's wired - you'll get both pickups and two off positions. I don't think your diagram of an on on on for neck-both-bridge selection will work. I think it'll just give neck-bridge-bridge. I'd extend all three leads directly over to the same terminals on the other pole - easier to wire that way. Personally I prefer schematics over wiring diagrams - especially when the parts are not indicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro2k Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 the switch i have is on on on and after I posted and read replies I realized it would make more sense to have it wired pickup 1 pickup 2 and both no off position I want volume no tone pot. I'm useing a 500k pot for volume with 1000pF/220K across two of the lugs on the volume pot. Thanks hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samba Pa Ti Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Cool - a "guess the switch" game!! You're correct - an on on on switch wouldn't work as wired. But an on off on wouldn't work either - not the way it's wired - you'll get both pickups and two off positions. I don't think your diagram of an on on on for neck-both-bridge selection will work. I think it'll just give neck-bridge-bridge. I'd extend all three leads directly over to the same terminals on the other pole - easier to wire that way. Personally I prefer schematics over wiring diagrams - especially when the parts are not indicated. im not sure which bit wouldnt work ? http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7527/wiringwo6.jpg that is correct afaik the middle posistion of the on on on would connect everything (so neck and bridge would be mixed in the center) the switch i have is on on on and after I posted and read replies I realized it would make more sense to have it wired pickup 1 pickup 2 and both no off position I want volume no tone pot. I'm useing a 500k pot for volume with 1000pF/220K across two of the lugs on the volume pot. Thanks hope this helps ok if you have an ON ON ON switch just remember that the center is the common lug (in any posistion the center is being connected) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/862/dpdtonononmb7.jpg it wont work any other way than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAArthur Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 im not sure which bit wouldnt work ? http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7527/wiringwo6.jpg that is correct afaik the middle posistion of the on on on would connect everything (so neck and bridge would be mixed in the center) ok if you have an ON ON ON switch just remember that the center is the common lug (in any posistion the center is being connected) http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/862/dpdtonononmb7.jpg it wont work any other way than that Sorry, but you are wrong. Your assumption seems to be that a mini-toggle on/on/on works in the same way as a leaf toggle - like the pickup selector on a Gibson. It doesn't. The switch pattern is different. Here is an ascii representation of the pattern: 6 3 6 3 6 6 | | | 5 2 5 2 5 2 | | | 4 1 4 1 4 1 [/codebox] You can confirm this for yourself by looking at the spec sheet for any on/on/on mini toggle. Here is a link to one. On the second page of this PDF, you will find a DPDT on/on/on mini toggle - listed as 7211. The switch pattern is presented to the right. The numbering of the terminals is below the table. http://www.ittcannon.com/media/pdf/catalog.../7000toggle.pdf So, if you want to use an on/on/on for pickup 1/both/pickup 2, the easiest way to wire it is: one pickup to both terminals 6 & 3 output from both terminals 5 & 2 second pickup to both terminals 4 & 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro2k Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Ok I wired pickup one to lug 6-3 output to pot 5-2 and pickup two to 4-1. I don't get no out put in center sounds like I get both pickups when its over lug 6-3 and one pickup over 4-1. It's a on on on switch anyone have any idea what i did wrong? thanks :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappasitanz Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 dont rely in any diagrams for an unknown switch..... use a continuity tester!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro2k Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 It's an on on on switch says right on the side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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