Captain Sociable Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I just got a LP body. I want to stain it asap. the wood is already sanded and sealed. my question, can the dye go straight on or do I have to sand it first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 sealer does exactly what it sounds like. it seals the wood. you cant stain the sealer itself, it has to take to the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maikman Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 http://www.reranch.com/dyes.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 http://www.reranch.com/dyes.htm THANKS SO MUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 sealer does exactly what it sounds like. it seals the wood. you cant stain the sealer itself, it has to take to the wood. so, can the sealer be sanded or am I s.o.l.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 sealer does exactly what it sounds like. it seals the wood. you cant stain the sealer itself, it has to take to the wood. so, can the sealer be sanded or am I s.o.l.? yes, the sealer can be sanded down. what kind of wood are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 sealer does exactly what it sounds like. it seals the wood. you cant stain the sealer itself, it has to take to the wood. so, can the sealer be sanded or am I s.o.l.? yes, the sealer can be sanded down. what kind of wood are we talking about here? BASSWOOD WITH A FLAME MAPLE TOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 sealer does exactly what it sounds like. it seals the wood. you cant stain the sealer itself, it has to take to the wood. so, can the sealer be sanded or am I s.o.l.? yes, the sealer can be sanded down. what kind of wood are we talking about here? BASSWOOD WITH A FLAME MAPLE TOP then it should be fairly easy to sand off the sealer. if you are really sure you want to stain it instead of spraying a tinted color coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) USING A TINTED COLOR WOULD BE MUCH EASIER BUT WOULD IT BRING OUT THE GRAIN IN THE WOOD? Edited August 23, 2007 by Captain Sociable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 USING A TINTED COLOR WOULD BE MUCH EASIER BUT WOULD IT BRING OUT THE GRAIN IN THE WOOD? I bought tung oil based stain from woodburst. Can it be mixed with clear coat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killemall8 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 USING A TINTED COLOR WOULD BE MUCH EASIER BUT WOULD IT BRING OUT THE GRAIN IN THE WOOD? I bought tung oil based stain from woodburst. Can it be mixed with clear coat? im not sure. ive never mixed tung with clear. you could test it first. that wouldnt hurt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenstein Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 If it's one of the Saga kits, be very careful sanding the body. The neck tends to sand pretty well, but the veneer on the body is very thin on the edges and is very easy to sand through. I know this because I'm right in the middle of one of these kits right now. I originally decided to try to dye the top even though I've read that many people have had problems with sand through, however, even though I've had many years practice doing body work on cars and a whole lot of equipment (DA, Paint Guns, Finishing Sanders, etc...), I decided to give it a shot. Results: I sanded through as well. It is VERY thin and the sealer is like epoxy... It is a pain to sand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sociable Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 yeah its the les paul kit, the top goes from half a centimeter to 1 centimeter so sanding thru shouldnt be a problem. I am gonna get a palm sander. this sealer is a bitch. which kit are you working on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenstein Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I've got the PRS kit. The good news about the kit is the sealer takes paint very well with a scuff job, but sanding down for dye is an absolute nightmare. Be very careful on the outside of the contour and with a light touch. It's a lot thinner than it looks, trust me on that. If you do get too close, or even come through the veneer, it does fill fairly nice with a good quality fill and sand. I used urethane on the primer, then laquer for the color and nitro for the clear. I'm now in the process of wet sanding in prep for final clear, but will say so far, it's looking pretty darn good, even with the minor sand through. I just hope it sounds as good as it looks when finished. BTW I am changing the pickups and tuners right off to help with the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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