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Hi I am new to this forum and like moding existing instruments at this stage.

Here is my latest project inspired by a cigar guitar ad for daddy-mojo gats and of course one of the fathers of rock Bo-Diddley himself. So I came up with my basic design based on using an old artbox (hence the name) and an old neck that was still attached to something.

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Surgery all happens here:

Workshop.jpg

This is the artbox:

BearArtbox.jpg

..and the neck donor

NeckDonor.jpg

The neck donor has not back ... probably the result of a video shoot ...actually found on the side of the road in the inorganic...thankyou whoever you are.

NeckDonorback.jpg

First procedure is to free the neck from its body ...ahh thats better

Necklessneckdonor.jpg

And offer it up to the artbox body

ArtboxNeck1sttime.jpg

...yeah doesn't quite fit

I will post more as the work is done.

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in this last pic it seems that you might have some problems with the bridge placement. is that box long enough to fit the classical scale?

That is right Hector I thought I had enough room, the bridge would end up right on the edge and that would be no good, as it would defeat the prupose of having a box. So I will need to pack out the heal box somehow. Suggestions welcome of course. I would like to have room for a standard classical bridge, so I probably need to pack out 25mm to have the space. The neck is 332mm to the 12th fret so need at least that plus allowing for a 30 wide bridge. The box is 332mm long too...Sods law applies damn it. Not as tidy as I thought but hey that is part of the build. See more pictures below for more progress.

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That is right Hector I thought I had enough room, the bridge would end up right on the edge and that would be no good, as it would defeat the prupose of having a box. So I will need to pack out the heal box somehow. Suggestions welcome of course. I would like to have room for a standard classical bridge, so I probably need to pack out 25mm to have the space. The neck is 332mm to the 12th fret so need at least that plus allowing for a 30 wide bridge. The box is 332mm long too...Sods law applies damn it. Not as tidy as I thought but hey that is part of the build. See more pictures below for more progress.

So... instead of trying to add length to the back of the box, why can't you add depth to the heel of the neck? It's surgury either way, but this one seems like it'd be more ascthetically pleasing in the end.

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That is right Hector I thought I had enough room, the bridge would end up right on the edge and that would be no good, as it would defeat the prupose of having a box. So I will need to pack out the heal box somehow. Suggestions welcome of course. I would like to have room for a standard classical bridge, so I probably need to pack out 25mm to have the space. The neck is 332mm to the 12th fret so need at least that plus allowing for a 30 wide bridge. The box is 332mm long too...Sods law applies damn it. Not as tidy as I thought but hey that is part of the build. See more pictures below for more progress.

So... instead of trying to add length to the back of the box, why can't you add depth to the heel of the neck? It's surgury either way, but this one seems like it'd be more ascthetically pleasing in the end.

Thanks for that suggestion, yes I am thinking along those lines.

Here are some more progress pics:

Neck stripped of finish. The neck will be painted and lacquered.

Neck3.jpg

Fretboard sanded ready for faux ebony process

Neck4.jpg

Closeup.

Neck2.jpg

I will polish and level frets before I start this process. I want to use a marine lacquer on the fretboard to make it hard and to stop the wear...the frets will wear out before the board does in that case. But the neck had quite bad wear as shown below. I had to sand that out the best I could.

FretWear.jpg

As the box is not long enough for the scale length I need to block the heal out some 25mm by the looks to get a classical style bridge on the top. I want the back to open when the neck is attached so I can get access for the electrics. So I need to come up with something that has rigidity. Suggestions welcome.

NeckProblem2.jpg

Closeup

NeckProblem1.jpg

The artbox sides are quite thick but not very high, but enough to get a screw or 2 in there to hold a block I suppose.

OpenArtbox.jpg

The fretboard will be glued to the top which is 3mm thick MDF(the top has a veneer as is fashionable these days). The box will be painted anyway veneer or not.

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Oh man I'm loving this one. You need to search on youtube for "the honeydripper". There's a movie coming out about a poor black man in the south that builds a guitar just like this from an old guitar neck and a box.

Better yet, do a search for Ben Prestage. He owns the 2nd Honeydripper ever made and he plays it really well.

Ben Prestage will let you know what the CBG is all about. This guy is the shizzle.

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Oh man I'm loving this one. You need to search on youtube for "the honeydripper". There's a movie coming out about a poor black man in the south that builds a guitar just like this from an old guitar neck and a box.

Better yet, do a search for Ben Prestage. He owns the 2nd Honeydripper ever made and he plays it really well.

Ben Prestage will let you know what the CBG is all about. This guy is the shizzle.

Thanks for the site links Mr J they are real cool....and yeah that guy is the sizzle, very inspiring.

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  • 1 year later...
Are you planning to use classical nylon strings on this? If you are, that humbucker won't work.

No Nylon for this baby, its steel all the way.

Classical neck... no truss rod, right? Not a good combination with steel strings.

Yeah I know but, I am using a high strung set which will have less tension and I will probably tune it down if it becomes an issue.

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Hi there,

I have finally finished this and here are the completed pictures:

Front view:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2773.jpg

Back view:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2777.jpg

Top close up:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2789.jpg

Inside with the back off:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2783.jpg

Headstock:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2775.jpg

The label:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/bobiron/IMG_2784.jpg

Plays ok, even done a gig with this. The piezo and humbucker combined sound great. The quality of the machine heads are not great and the needs to be kept an eye on a little to much for my liking. Maybe I will put some better ones in to address that issue. Overall very happy with it. Now onto the next one.

PS I dispensed with the high strung idea after stringing it up that way an decided to go standard instead.

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