dogdaysunrise Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Hi, I just started to strip my S-series Body yesterday and I think I need some help now, because I have several questions. First I used the chemical method and strangely now word was mentioned on the main site to leave the paint on, in the pickup cavities, only in the sanding and heat tutorial is it mentioned to leave the paint on in the cavities, because it is a special conductive shielding paint :D So, well, now that I applied the stripper everywhere, where can I get this special paint to reapply it again??? I checked stewmac, but I didn't see it. Also, now that I have the paint off the body, it seems there is a clear layer or something still on the wood, which didn't get stripped, but in some areas is the wood shining through. I applied more stripper, but it won't take it off.....is this normal...do I have to sand that off.....what is this.......????? And last but not least, I lost confidence and I am frustrated (I know, barely started and I am already loosing confidence), but I am actually pretty crafty, but the way everything looks right now, I ****ed it all up by just the first step. I thought I'm gonna have the body stripped and just the wood and the next thing would be to apply the new paint, but now I stripped the paint in the pickup cavities, where I shouldn't have (maybe somebody should update that in the chemical tutorial so others won't do the same) and then there is still this clear layer on top of it, where in some areas the wood is exposed and it looks just ****ed up and makes me wonder why I didn't simply sand it down in the first place. Having said that, does anybody know a place in the Kansas City Area that does refinishing, maybe that's a better way to go, unless somebody can tell me, where I can get the special conductive shielding paint again and how I can get the rest off the body or what that even is....it feels like some hard plastic protective coat or is that the primer...I am so clueless. Any help very much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Paper Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 What stripper are you using? Chemical strippers sometimes have a hard time with that thick plastic-like surfacer that companies use. I'd take the majority of that off with heat and then use the stripper as a final cleanup. As my idiotic general rule, if the stripper doesn't burn like crazy when it gets on you, it's too weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 It does burn like crazy it was the brand I bought at Home Depot, not that orange stuf, it was in a metal can, but I can't remember the brand. Thanks for your reply. Can you tell me where to get the special paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_player Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 The paint inside the cavities is shielding paint, to shield the electronics, it is cheaper to use the tape though and either will work just as good, just the paint would look a little cleaner. paint - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_p...ding_Paint.html tape - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_p...opper_Tape.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Thank you! How did I miss that! That copper tape looks actually pretty awesome! I'm getting excited again..... so, an regarding that other paint still left on the guitar....just more stripper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick500 Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Be careful with that copper tape. The edges are extremely sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 First of all, you guys are awesome, so many quick replies and help and that on easter sunday! THANK YOU SO MUCH! Happy Easter! One last thing that I might need, in the poti cavity is a little piece if metalsheet or tape for grounding and it looks like it needs to be replaced. Where would I get that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Paper Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 That stewmac copper tape says it accepts solder, so i'd go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syxxstring Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 You can get copper foil at a lot of craft and hobby shops, maybe cheaper than Stew Mac. The "paint" you have left is vinyl sealer most likely. If you can leave it and use it as your primer. What are your final finish plans? That will help determine where you should go. I would always start at the final goal and build a plan from there for paint. Also posting pictures makes diagnoses a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 I get my copper at basiccopper.com look in the bargain bin. Their prices seemed pretty reasonable last time I bought some. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim37 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 if its a fender do a search for fullerplast its a sealer that fender has used for years thats supposed to be chemical resistant the info i found said that head and sanding where the only things to use on it any way i just stripped a mim strat and i think im gonna have problems fender compesated for the thick finish so now there is gonna be a edge where the neck meets the boddy in the lower hook. and im afraid that the brigde is gonna be low. oh well live and learn. and im learing a lot here lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I just dropped it off at a professional, I decided I want a binding and that's definitely no job for a beginner. Thanks again for all the help and replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Good luck, hope it pays better than luthiere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I will post how it turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Paper Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 After reading the comment about the Fullerplast stuff, I kind of want to strip a body that has been filled with it. We get the industrial paint stripper in 55gal drums at work, plus we have heat guns. We've yet to have something come in that couldn't be stripped in one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdaysunrise Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I think I owe you this guys as an update and as a thank you for all your help! Ok, so that was the time when I thought it's time to call someone who knows what he is doing. I wanted some swirl finish with a binding, or maybe just oiled. But then I already had the fretboard darkened and I know that somebody on this forum has a swirl prestige s and a 540 neck on it and I didn't wanna be a copy cat. So I googled and was looking for shops who would do my request.....not telling you yet..... All of them turned me down!!!!! Funny, how the ones with the most fancy website and the most pictures, can't fill a center single coil cavity or a binding. Definitely everybody turned me down on the binding, they say it can't be done on a thin body like the s, it's too much of a pain in the a.. and it won't look right, too many things can go wrong...blablablablaaa I had almost given up hope, when I thought why not look for somebody local and that's when I cam across seufs repair. http://seufsrepair.com/ Maybe not the fanciest website, but I have and wanna mention these guys and especially Dave who looked at the guitar and said.....sure, we can fill the single coil and do a binding. I even wanted a superthin binding from the top, just like the headstock. I opted for a black gloss finish, because I simply love black so much and it will be a nice contrast to the binding. Here's what they did. If you ever need help on a guitar I can highly recommend those guys, priced reasonably and very nice.[clap] [clap] [clap] And then again (I'm sorry) every other shop (I'm not gonna say names though) turned me down for the binding! Paint it on....use pin strip tape.....yeah right!?[shifty] I once asked here if there ever was a plain black S with a binding and everyone said no, so now there is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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