necroreaper Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Hi all, Sorry if this has been answered, but a search yielded no results. Where do you guys in the UK get dyes, laquers etc. from? Been searching online and there are plenty of parts suppliers but none seem to stock finishing supplies. Shipping from Stewmac etc. is expensive and slow so I thought I'd check if anyone had any alternatives. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 what are you looking for ? movac is a good place to start for lacquer supplies, dyes etc you could try any number of thousands of suppliers.. if you have looked for something specifica and cant find it, i may be able to point you in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroreaper Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Hi Jaden, thanks for the response. I'm looking for dye to stain a quilted maple top, and was hoping to find a clear coat that I can brush on but still has a nice shine and good protection (I've not had great success with aerosols). I've been looking for guitar specific sites as I don't know much about what I need... wasn't sure if furniture products would be ok. If you could point me in the right direction, that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 for brush on lacquer you might want to try rustins plastic coating which you can get from here: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Rustins...ating-23018.htm along with: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Chestnu...Stain-21822.htm and if you are brushing lacquer on dont skimp on the brush: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_...le=1&jump=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizardfire Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 (edited) I am in the same boat....looking for a UK supplier of decent dyes ( looking for purple) to finish my son's Jackson Rhoads, which I have stripped down. I mentioned in another thread that he had painted a Union Jack on the front. It now has a smart new book matched veneer front in flamed Mouingue. I want to complete the job with a sunburst purple finish! The top coats will be Danish Oil which gives a lovely semi gloss , natural finish. I used that on a 'Buzzard' style bass that I made from Lacewood. Lovely wood...but hard as concrete to carve into shape...even on a large bandsaw! So ...PURPLE dye in UK , please! Tried Movac thanks. No purple that I could see. Thanks WizardFire Edited April 11, 2010 by wizardfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 along with: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Chestnu...Stain-21822.htm i have done purple with this, and had it mixed successfully with the RPC i mentioned above and nitro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroreaper Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 for brush on lacquer you might want to try rustins plastic coating which you can get from here: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Rustins...ating-23018.htm along with: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Chestnu...Stain-21822.htm and if you are brushing lacquer on dont skimp on the brush: http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_...le=1&jump=0 That's awesome Wez, thanks. How did you find the plastic coating? Can you buff it up to a nice shine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostheta Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Expensive, but worth a look. Search Google UK for "Tonetech luthier supplies". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 check out simo's bass http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...40202&st=90 i did all my early finishes with RPC but now send most stuff out for spraying... although i am currently doing a few brush on RPC finishes again on a few personal projects i dont have the money to have sprayed As you can see, you can get great results - but it does take some effort on your part and some people dont get on with it. I find it rather forgiving because you will be costing with a brush you will get brush marks, and maybe even the occasional run, bristle or dust spec. so you have to do regular sand backs to get it all flat again and ready for the next coat i tend to do 2 days of coats every 2 hours. after this it will look like crap so it now gets a good sand till its all flat with something like 400 grit wet & dry paper, inevitably i sand through at this stage in some areas Then i repeat again, it should all go on smoother now, so i do another day of coats every 2 hours. Next morning i should be able to sand flat without going through (using 800 grit this time). I repeat this till happy - when i can flat it off to 1200 grit and get it ready for buffing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 the tonetech dyes are great, I use those as well as aniline dyes from behlen (I think) there is a behlen brushing lacquer, available straight from behlen, ive used that too, pretty good ! available with flattener etc. axminster do a whole host of finishes that are easily sprayed, I think the rub is, like the reset of us you have to buy the stuff and see what works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroreaper Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 check out simo's bass http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.ph...40202&st=90 i did all my early finishes with RPC but now send most stuff out for spraying... although i am currently doing a few brush on RPC finishes again on a few personal projects i dont have the money to have sprayed As you can see, you can get great results - but it does take some effort on your part and some people dont get on with it. I find it rather forgiving because you will be costing with a brush you will get brush marks, and maybe even the occasional run, bristle or dust spec. so you have to do regular sand backs to get it all flat again and ready for the next coat i tend to do 2 days of coats every 2 hours. after this it will look like crap so it now gets a good sand till its all flat with something like 400 grit wet & dry paper, inevitably i sand through at this stage in some areas Then i repeat again, it should all go on smoother now, so i do another day of coats every 2 hours. Next morning i should be able to sand flat without going through (using 800 grit this time). I repeat this till happy - when i can flat it off to 1200 grit and get it ready for buffing Holy cr@p! That bass was finished with RPC?! I'm definitely gonna get some of that... not afraid of hard work if I can get a result half as nice as that. Thanks again Wez the tonetech dyes are great, I use those as well as aniline dyes from behlen (I think) there is a behlen brushing lacquer, available straight from behlen, ive used that too, pretty good ! available with flattener etc. axminster do a whole host of finishes that are easily sprayed, I think the rub is, like the reset of us you have to buy the stuff and see what works for you. Cheers Jaden, I'll take a look at those dyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 like Wez sez, the RPC is pretty good but it is hard work and the temperature is pretty critical too, you must use it at the correct minimum temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 strange . . . i have never had temperature issues with it - ah well, winters out the way now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizardfire Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 (edited) I found this supplier of coloured dyes in the UK: Chestnut Products They have a suppliers list, and they stock PURPLE! WizardFire Edited April 12, 2010 by wizardfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezV Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 you must have missed the two occasions in this thread I linked to the chesnut spirit stains at axminster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaden Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 strange . . . i have never had temperature issues with it - ah well, winters out the way now darn stuff didnt dry when I used it at around 5 degrees, can says minimum 15 I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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