Noceda guitars Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Hi everybody. This is my first post and I want to present my new building, still a work in progess. It's a small guitar with a scale length of 20" (508mm), semihollow sapelly body, hard maple top, laminated neck (brazilian cedar, and paduack) with a very, very small ebony fingerboard. Just one minihumbucker and a custom bridge. And now some pics All the woods Laminated neck Sapelly body this are five pieces of sapelly. I have a question. In spanish, a piece of natural wood (no plywood or similar) it's called "Tablón". A piece made from several pieces it's called "Tablero". Can I call the sapelly body a board "Tablero" of sapelly? More pics: this scarft joint it's done in the headstock so when I glue the venner the cut will be hidden. some work done. glueing the top. The headstock's template. More to come soon ... Edited July 27, 2010 by Noceda guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Looks good! I like the F holes. What tuning will you be using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Looks good! I like the F holes. What tuning will you be using? Thanks Geo. I will try to use standard tunning with a string set of 0.54 - 0.10, but if i heard somo tunning problems i'll tunnig down a whole step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I will try to use standard tunning with a string set of 0.54 - 0.10, but if i heard somo tunning problems i'll tunnig down a whole step. It seems like at that scale length, with normal strings, you might want to tune up a minor third. My reasoning is, your scale length is about 4/5 standard, and if you apply that ratio to the 12 semitones of our scale, you chop off three of them. Another way to look at it is to measure out 20" from the bridge on a standard guitar and see what fret it lands nearest to. Then tune the small guitar like you would a normal guitar capoed at that fret. Or, if you want it at standard tuning, you'll probably need much heavier strings (and your low E might not sound too good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 I will try to use standard tunning with a string set of 0.54 - 0.10, but if i heard somo tunning problems i'll tunnig down a whole step. It seems like at that scale length, with normal strings, you might want to tune up a minor third. My reasoning is, your scale length is about 4/5 standard, and if you apply that ratio to the 12 semitones of our scale, you chop off three of them. Another way to look at it is to measure out 20" from the bridge on a standard guitar and see what fret it lands nearest to. Then tune the small guitar like you would a normal guitar capoed at that fret. Or, if you want it at standard tuning, you'll probably need much heavier strings (and your low E might not sound too good). Hi Geo, you are right. I was reading this (smallguitars.com): to get a stable sound and tuning in mini electric guitars we recommend either using higher gauge strings (0.11 would be a good choice), or alternatively, use a higher string tuning, such as A-D-G-C-E-A or an open G: G-D-G-B-D-G. Please refer also to the section below about how to tune a small guitar) Maybe I try a thicker string set (0.56 - 0.11) or tune it up, not down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted July 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 And now more pics: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Maybe I try a thicker string set (0.56 - 0.11) or tune it up, not down Sounds like you got it under control! By the way it looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPA or death Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Nice looking guitar you've got going there. I'm working on a short scale travel guitar modeled after the old Chiquita travel guitar which is 19" scale. They recommend tuning up three half steps to G. The Chiquitas come with these string gauges: .013, .017, .022, .036, .046, .056 Good luck with the build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hi everybody. After a short vacation, i've back to work. The 22 frets instaled And the neck rough carved. I hope I can work faster now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I have learned a good lesson the hard way: Clamp all your stuff when you are not working. The neck fallen from my workbench and the hit with the hard concrete broke the paduack binding: I've decide to take off the paduack binding, at fret 17, leaving the sicamore binding. I think it's not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezDudeCK Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 For the strings, I'd try the Zakk Wylde GHS set with the 72 low E or a baritone set. Maybe a 7 string set without the high e (it'd have a wrapped 3rd string like an acoustic, but it'd be thick). Daddaario has a new drop C set too that's thick as can be. I like the look of that top, but I hope the body isn't finished. It looks really wide and not really fluid. The cutaway is WAY too small. You're neck clamp things for attaching the fretboard are pure genius though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thanks for the advice, IbanezDudeCK, but 72 maybe it's too much. The cutaway, yeah, you are right, I have to work more on it, but, what do you mean when you say "the body it's not fluid"?. The body isn't so wide, maybe it is a perspective problem in that photo. The clamps: Violin's clamps Used to clamp the violin tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezDudeCK Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thanks for the advice, IbanezDudeCK, but 72 maybe it's too much. The cutaway, yeah, you are right, I have to work more on it, but, what do you mean when you say "the body it's not fluid"?. The body isn't so wide, maybe it is a perspective problem in that photo. The clamps: Violin's clamps Used to clamp the violin tops. The body just doesn't really seem like everything fits together. The holes look really modern but the body as a whole looks like a really old vintage style hollowbody. Maybe it'll look better when the cutaway is done but to me, the body shape looks vintage and the wood and holes look modern. it just doesn't seem to have a modern, slim and streamlined look like the F holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Cool shape, in a funky Salvador Dali kind of way. Besides, is it just me or = ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Cool shape, in a funky Salvador Dali kind of way. Besides, is it just me or = ? next time I'll think in Mickey Mouse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avengers63 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 That pic comparison is hilarious. I was just looking at the spool clamps you used. I started thinking "Those would be pretty dang easy to make, and would be really useful. Lag bolts, washers, cork, 2 solid blocks (scrap!!!), and a wing nut." Hmmmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Hi folks how is going today After a lot of time without updating my thread , here are a few more pics. Enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davtheknave Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Awesome, something new and truely innovative. Cheers man. avengers63--I have made violin clamps almost exactly like you outlined, I used non-slip pads (made for furniture legs, can get them from any hardware store) on the contact surfaces of mine with good results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted November 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Thanks davtheknave, I try to do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 I started this thread a long time ago, I finished the guitar but, for no particular reason, I never published any photo. I think that it's time to show you, after almost three years, the result of my effort Enjoy it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SykoDJ Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 very nice what string set are you using I am also building A smaller guitar my body is 10" long though so it will even be smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noceda guitars Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hi sykodj. This guitar have a scale of 20" and a light string set (10-46) with no particular problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SykoDJ Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 Hi sykodj. This guitar have a scale of 20" and a light string set (10-46) with no particular problem. good to know being that mine is half that I may down tune half step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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